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From: Thomas Schwinge <thomas@codesourcery.com>
To: Philip Herron <philip.herron@embecosm.com>
Cc: <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Philip Herron <herron.philip@googlemail.com>,
	SimplyTheOther <simplytheother@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH Rust front-end v1 2/4] Add Rust lang TargetHooks for i386 and x86_64
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 13:08:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735ellcj8.fsf@dem-tschwing-1.ger.mentorg.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB2u+n0QNmTo2GbhpVfyLb1m=NBh+1BZdTv6iDeQD=XXxhLihQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Phil!

On 2022-07-28T11:51:37+0100, Philip Herron <philip.herron@embecosm.com> wrote:
> I think you are right here. There are parts in
> libstd/liballoc/libpanic which start to look for what CPU features are
> available iirc.

Aha, good.  That -- once we get there ;-) -- shall then guide us on the
target options we implement, in addition to what we find generally
necessary for a conforming Rust programming language implementation (as
I'd mentioned).

> libcore [...] just
> cares about target pointer width and endienness which is more
> generally available as macros.

Right, and these are already implemented in
'gcc/rust/rust-session-manager.cc:Session::init'.  (..., but also should
get some test cases added; I'll have a look at some point.)

> It seems more clear now that maybe for this v1 set of patches,
> possibly this stuff doesn't really matter right now until we compile
> libstd which seems like a much better approach in order to review the
> front-end code. I think i will apply your patch and revert these
> changes for now since we have the git history for them we can look at
> this more closely when we need it.

Unless this issue is time-critical, let me offer that instead of my
"[HACK] Disable 'TARGET_RUST_CPU_INFO', 'TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO'",
I'll cook up a proper patch, removing the implementations of
'TARGET_RUST_CPU_INFO', 'TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO', etc., but keeping the
general infrastructure in place (if I find that makes sense)?


Grüße
 Thomas


> On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 at 11:38, Thomas Schwinge <thomas@codesourcery.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> On 2022-07-27T14:40:38+0100, "herron.philip--- via Gcc-patches" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>> > This patch introduces a new set of interfaces to define the target info as
>> > expected by the rust front-end. It takes advantage of the information
>> > within gcc/config/target directories which gets called by the front-end
>> > to populate rust front-end datastructures by calling into:
>> > builtin_rust_info. This patch has been isolated to find if we are
>> > approaching this in an idiomatic way and is compilable without the
>> > rust-front-end code.
>>
>> I suppose the general approach may be fine, as is similarly implemented
>> by other languages' front ends in GCC.
>>
>> > We have received many patches here which gives us the target hook info for
>> > most platforms
>>
>> But this is all so much WIP and full of TODO notes, and has no test cases
>> at all!, that I still don't really see much value in keeping the current
>> implementations of 'TARGET_RUST_CPU_INFO', 'TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO', etc.
>> Applying "[HACK] Disable 'TARGET_RUST_CPU_INFO', 'TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO'"
>> that I've attached, we're not seeing any change in 'make check-rust'
>> results, for example.
>>
>> In my opinion, the current implementation should be backed out from the
>> main development branch (would also reduce pain in merges from GCC
>> upstream, as mentioned before), and then be developed (quite possibly
>> based on the current implementation) individually for all GCC
>> configurations that we'd like to support (with 'sorry' otherwise), in a
>> coherent way, instead of trying to guess all possible target options as
>> done by the current implementation.  And, with all relevant test cases
>> getting added, of course.  That is, at this time, restrict outselves to
>> GCC configurations that we're actually supporting and testing.
>>
>> Have we even figured out which of those target options are actually
>> mandated for a conforming Rust programming language implementation (that
>> is, users would potentially rely on these)?
>>
>> As far as I can tell, 'rustc' defines target options here:
>> <https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/tree/master/compiler/rustc_target/src/spec>,
>> and you may use 'rustc --print=cfg' to dump for the current
>> configuration?
>>
>> > but getting the normal x86 done correctly will define if
>> > the other patches are done correctly.
>>
>> Yes -- but I'm not sure this is it really, in its current WIPy,
>> un-tested, un-verified form:
>>
>> > gcc/config/ChangeLog:
>>
>> >         * gnu.h: add new macro GNU_USER_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * dragonfly.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * freebsd-spec.h: define FBSD_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * freebsd.h: define guard for TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * fuchsia.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * kfreebsd-gnu.h: define GNU_USER_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * kopensolaris-gnu.h: define GNU_USER_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * linux-android.h: define ANDROID_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * linux.h: define GNU_USER_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * netbsd.h: define NETBSD_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * openbsd.h: define OPENBSD_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * phoenix.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * sol2.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * vxworks.h: define VXWORKS_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >       * vxworksae.h: define VXWORKS_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >
>> > gcc/config/i386/ChangeLog:
>> >
>> >         * crtdll.h: define EXTRA_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >         * cygming.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >         * cygwin.h: define EXTRA_TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >         * darwin.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >         * djgpp.h: likewise
>> >         * gnu-user-common.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>> >         * i386-protos.h: prototype for ix86_rust_target_cpu_info
>> >         * i386-rust.cc: new file to generate the rust target host info
>> >         * i386.h: define TARGET_RUST_CPU_INFO hook
>> >         * linux-common.h: define hooks for target info
>> >         * lynx.h: likewise
>> >         * mingw32.h: likewise
>> >         * netbsd-elf.h: likewise
>> >         * netbsd64.h: likewise
>> >         * nto.h: likewise
>> >         * openbsdelf.h: likewise
>> >         * rdos.h: likewise
>> >         * rtemself.h: likewise
>> >         * t-i386: add makefilke rule for i386-rust.cc
>> >         * vxworks.h: define TARGET_RUST_OS_INFO
>>
>>
>> Grüße
>>  Thomas
>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-28 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-27 13:40 Rust frontend patches v1 herron.philip
2022-07-27 13:40 ` [PATCH Rust front-end v1 1/4] Add skeleton Rust front-end folder herron.philip
2022-07-27 13:40 ` [PATCH Rust front-end v1 2/4] Add Rust lang TargetHooks for i386 and x86_64 herron.philip
2022-07-28  9:57   ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-07-28 10:38   ` Thomas Schwinge
2022-07-28 10:51     ` Philip Herron
2022-07-28 11:08       ` Thomas Schwinge [this message]
2022-07-28 11:41         ` Philip Herron
2022-07-27 13:40 ` [PATCH Rust front-end v1 3/4] Add Rust target hooks to ARM herron.philip
2022-07-27 14:13   ` Richard Earnshaw
2022-07-27 16:45 ` Rust frontend patches v1 David Malcolm
2022-07-28  9:39   ` Philip Herron
2022-08-10 18:56     ` Philip Herron
2022-08-10 19:06       ` David Malcolm
2022-08-12 20:45       ` Mike Stump
2022-08-15 14:07       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2022-08-15 14:33         ` Martin Liška
2022-08-24 13:48           ` Martin Liška
2022-08-24 13:51             ` Philip Herron
2022-08-24 14:02               ` Martin Liška

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