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From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
	Project Archer <archer@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: hw_breakpoint userland interface
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:14:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110210211412.3A1151806E0@magilla.sf.frob.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Oleg Nesterov's message of  Thursday, 10 February 2011 21:55:43 +0100 <20110210205543.GA4590@redhat.com>

> Yes. Firstly we need to know what would be more convenient for those
> who will actually use the new interface.

Indeed.

> Do you have any plans to introduce something like per-process
> breakpoints, or (apart from inheriting) everything continues to
> be per-thread?

I think we should look at doing what makes most sense for the users,
i.e. GDB.  It's my impression that what is really desired is both options.

In fact, I'm not altogether sure that anyone wants per-thread watchpoints
at all, that being data watchpoints.  When the issue is finding how some
memory gets touched, then it doesn't make much sense to confine it to a
particular thread--you want to know when the memory changed, whatever
thread did it.

If the hw_breakpoint interfaces also support (or will support) the
hardware-assisted code breakpoints, then there it is probably desired to
have thread-specific breakpoint support.  But it's not clear to me that
serious userland users like GDB would really make use of any hardware-based
code breakpoints any time soon.  They are so limited that you always need
to fall back to traditional text-inserted breakpoints and I'm not sure it's
deemed worthwhile to put effort into hardware-based code breakpoints for
the small number of cases they can address.


Thanks,
Roland

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-10 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-03 22:39 ptrace improvement ideas Roland McGrath
2011-02-04 18:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-04 18:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-07 21:11 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-08  1:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 20:41     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-09  2:48       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 21:07     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-08 23:18       ` hw_breakpoint userland interface Roland McGrath
2011-02-10 21:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 21:14           ` Roland McGrath [this message]
2011-02-11 20:17             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 20:00 ` ptrace improvement: PTRACE_O_INHERIT Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-11 19:24   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-11 20:46     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-12  0:59       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-12 19:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-14 19:31           ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-14 19:46             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15  0:36               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 13:16                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15 21:43                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-15 21:56                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:42                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:45                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:16                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-19 19:48                             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-19 20:37                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-20  8:18                                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-20 21:05                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-21 19:54                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 19:39                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 20:49                                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 21:10                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 22:16                                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-21 19:44                               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:02                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 16:02                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:28                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:00                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:07                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:32                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:02                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:15                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:31                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 21:04                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 21:51                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:40                       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:17                   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:48                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 11:31 ` ptrace improvement ideas (QPassSignals) Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:36   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:21     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-18 20:24       ` Oleg Nesterov

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