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From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Project Archer <archer@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: ptrace improvement: PTRACE_O_INHERIT
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110215220153.470031806E0@magilla.sf.frob.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Jan Kratochvil's message of  Tuesday, 15 February 2011 22:43:33 +0100 <20110215214333.GA18086@host1.dyn.jankratochvil.net>

> Could PTRACE_ATTACH_NOSTOP+PTRACE_DETACH_NOSTOP? act on the whole PID at once
> if PTRACE_O_THREAD_INHERIT is applied - already during PTRACE_ATTACH_NOSTOP?
> It is a bit overloading the *_NOSTOP meaning but it is a new PTRACE_* op.

This is an obviously desireable feature.  I considered it when making my
suggestions, but stopped short of suggesting it because I think it may have
substantially difficult implementation issues in the kernel.  It may well
be that that detach-group is not really very hard to do at all (that
probably being asynchronous detach, not requiring stopped tracees, and not
supporting any parting-signal feature).  Perhaps attach-group is also more
tractable than I thought from a brief consideration of the implementation
issues.  Oleg will have to study it and give his opinions.  It was my guess
that even if it's pretty doable, the attach-group implementation will be
sufficiently hairy that the kernel community would demand that we do some
simpler incremental changes first before attempting it (such as what I
proposed for ATTACH_NOSTOP, which eliminates the SIGSTOP and rolls in
atomic option-setting).


Thanks,
Roland

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-15 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-03 22:39 ptrace improvement ideas Roland McGrath
2011-02-04 18:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-04 18:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-07 21:11 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-08  1:58   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 20:41     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-09  2:48       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-08 21:07     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-08 23:18       ` hw_breakpoint userland interface Roland McGrath
2011-02-10 21:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 21:14           ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-11 20:17             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-10 20:00 ` ptrace improvement: PTRACE_O_INHERIT Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-11 19:24   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-11 20:46     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-12  0:59       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-12 19:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-14 19:31           ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-14 19:46             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15  0:36               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 13:16                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-15 21:43                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-15 21:56                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:42                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:45                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:16                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-19 19:48                             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-19 20:37                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-20  8:18                                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-20 21:05                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-21 19:54                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 19:39                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 20:49                                     ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-22 21:10                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-22 22:16                                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-21 19:44                               ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:02                     ` Roland McGrath [this message]
2011-02-16 16:02                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:28                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:00                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:07                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:32                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:02                         ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:15                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 20:31                             ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 21:04                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 21:51                                 ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 19:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 19:40                       ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-15 22:17                   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:48                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-16 11:31 ` ptrace improvement ideas (QPassSignals) Jan Kratochvil
2011-02-16 18:36   ` Roland McGrath
2011-02-16 20:21     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-18 20:24       ` Oleg Nesterov

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