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From: Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>
To: binutils@sourceware.org, Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com,
	richard.sandiford@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH,V4 4/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of arithmetic insns
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:58:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04067366-d397-4366-8a82-21767180ae64@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mpted80w0oj.fsf@arm.com>

On 7/11/24 05:52, Richard Sandiford wrote:
> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> writes:
>> On 7/1/24 11:13, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> writes:
>>>> [Changes in V4]
>>>> - Specify subclasses only for those iclasses relevent to SCFI:
>>>>     addsub_imm, and addsub_ext
>>>> [End of changes in V4]
>>>>
>>>> [No changes in V3]
>>>> [New in V2]
>>>>
>>>> Use the three new subclass flags: F_ARITH_ADD, F_ARITH_SUB,
>>>> F_ARITH_MOV, to indicate add, sub and mov ops respectively.
>>>>
>>>> opcodes/
>>>>       * aarch64-tbl.h: Use the new F_ARITH_* flags.
>>>> ---
>>>>    opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h | 30 +++++++++++++++---------------
>>>>    1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h b/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h
>>>> index 6e523db6277..57727254d43 100644
>>>> --- a/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h
>>>> +++ b/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h
>>>> @@ -3205,22 +3205,22 @@ const struct aarch64_opcode aarch64_opcode_table[] =
>>>>      CORE_INSN ("sbcs", 0x7a000000, 0x7fe0fc00, addsub_carry, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn, Rm), QL_I3SAMER, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>      CORE_INSN ("ngcs", 0x7a0003e0, 0x7fe0ffe0, addsub_carry, 0, OP2 (Rd, Rm),     QL_I2SAME,  F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>      /* Add/subtract (extended register).  */
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x0b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x2b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x2b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x4b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x6b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x6b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x0b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_ADD | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x2b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_ADD | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x2b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x4b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_SUB | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x6b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_SUB | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x6b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>      /* Add/subtract (immediate).  */
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x11000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, OP_ADD, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("mov",  0x11000000, 0x7ffffc00, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP),       QL_I2SP, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x31000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x3100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x51000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x71000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x7100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> -  MEMTAG_INSN ("addg",  0x91800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, 0),
>>>> -  MEMTAG_INSN ("subg",  0xd1800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, 0),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x11000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, OP_ADD, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_ADD | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("mov",  0x11000000, 0x7ffffc00, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP),       QL_I2SP, F_ARITH_MOV | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x31000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_ADD | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x3100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x51000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_SUB | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x71000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_SUB | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x7100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>> +  MEMTAG_INSN ("addg",  0x91800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, F_ARITH_ADD),
>>>> +  MEMTAG_INSN ("subg",  0xd1800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, F_ARITH_SUB),
>>>
>>> I suppose this raises the question: is GINSN_TYPE_ADD specifically
>>> for address arithmetic, or is it a normal addition?  If it's a
>>> normal addition then ADDG doesn't really fit.  If it's address
>>> arithmetic then it might be worth making the names more explicit.
>>>
>>


Apologies, my brain tricked me into reading the above as "is F_ARITH_ADD 
specifically for address arithmetic or is it normal addition?" all this 
time until now, and hence, what might appear as a confused reply in the 
previous email.

Hopefully I have not digressed too far.

>> For SCFI, we are interested in the insns which may have manipulated
>> REG_SP and REG_FP, so the intention is around address arithmetic.
>>
>> ATM, we generate ginsn for _all_ add, sub (and mov) in the iclass
>> addsub_imm, addsub_ext (and movewide..), irrespective of whether the
>> destination is REG_SP/REG_FP or not.
>>
>> IOW, "keep the ginsn creation code not tied to GINSN_GEN_SCFI" has been
>> followed where affordable.
> 
> I think this is useful even for SCFI, since large stack allocations could
> be done using intermediate calculations into temporary registers.
> 

Yes to using intermediate calculations into temporary registers.  This 
is true especially for aarch64 where we may see patterns like:

         mov     x16, 4384
         add     sp, sp, x16

(which I would like to support for SCFI/aarch64 next.  Adding support 
for this means enabling some data flow for sp traceability; SCFI does 
not have much of data flow ATM.)

But I am not sure if the GINSN_TYPE_ADD / GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR 
demarcation will be useful for SCFI because: effectively GINSN_TYPE_ADD 
with dest as REG_SP/REG_FP is address arithmetic for SCFI. SCFI can (and 
does) ignore the rest of GINSN_TYPE_ADD / GINSN_TYPE_SUB ops.

>> I dont have a good new name (F_ADDR_ARITH_* ?);  I personally find
>> F_ADDR_ARITH_*  unsuitable because this new name ties the
>> subclassification to the current usecase (SCFI and its need to see those
>> address arithmetic).  But may be I am overthinking.
>>
>> If you have a suggestion, please let me know.
> 
> The distinction between a full addition and address addition sounds
> like it could be generally useful, beyond just SCFI.  How abot having
> both GINSN_TYPE_ADD and GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR?  Places that are only
> interested in address arithmetic can treat both types in the same way.
> Types that want natural addition can handle GINSN_TYPE_ADD only.
> 

The distinction may be useful for usecases other than SCFI, true; 
depending on the usecase.

I think my nervousness with the explicit demarcation using two type of 
ginsns, GINSN_TYPE_ADD and GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR now, is on the generation 
side:

  - Wont we simply look at the destination register being REG_SP / 
REG_FP in some cases to pick GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR instead of 
GINSN_TYPE_ADD.  If so, GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR contains no more information 
than GINSN_TYPE_ADD in those cases.

  - Also, for other ISAs, I am not sure ATM if this will make things 
more complicated on the ginsn creation side as other rules to pick 
GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR vs GINSN_TYPE_ADD may be involved. And not all might 
be implementable at the time of ginsn creation (as some def-use analysis 
may be necessary to demarcate them?)

Indu

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-11 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-01  2:53 [PATCH,V4 0/8] Add SCFI support for aarch64 Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:53 ` [PATCH,V4 1/8] gas: scfi: make scfi_state_restore_reg function more precise Indu Bhagat
2024-07-12 15:03   ` [PATCH, V4 " Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:53 ` [PATCH,V4 2/8] include: opcodes: aarch64: define new subclasses Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 17:40   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  5:14     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 12:22       ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11 17:59         ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:53 ` [PATCH,V4 3/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of ldst insns Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 18:06   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  5:45     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-12 13:59       ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-13  7:34         ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 4/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of arithmetic insns Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 18:13   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  5:47     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 12:52       ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11 17:58         ` Indu Bhagat [this message]
2024-07-11 18:43           ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-12 12:53             ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 5/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of uncond branches Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 6/8] opcodes: aarch64: enforce checks on subclass flags in aarch64-gen.c Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 7/8] gas: aarch64: add experimental support for SCFI Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 19:49   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  6:30     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 13:15       ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11 19:07         ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 20:10           ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 8/8] gas: aarch64: testsuite: add new tests " Indu Bhagat

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