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Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.31.0.109] ([136.36.72.243]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y4-20020a170902864400b001e49428f313sm1688515plt.261.2024.04.18.09.06.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1fc9fdd9-bbb7-4506-bfe5-b31e9331eb90@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 10:06:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Beta Subject: Re: Deprecation/removal of nios2 target support Content-Language: en-US To: joel@rtems.org, Joseph Myers Cc: Sandra Loosemore , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sourceware.org, gdb-patches@sourceware.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Chung-Lin Tang , andrew@reenigne.org, Yao Qi , Dinh Nguyen , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, newlib@sourceware.org, Arnd Bergmann References: <55a1bc52-b435-463e-8be1-4b23e44393a0@baylibre.com> From: Jeff Law In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 4/18/24 9:57 AM, Joel Sherrill wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:46 AM Joseph Myers > wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, Sandra Loosemore wrote: > > > Therefore I'd like to mark Nios II as obsolete in GCC 14 now, and > remove > > support from all toolchain components after the release is made. > I'm not sure > > there is an established process for obsoleting/removing support > in other > > components; besides binutils, GDB, and GLIBC, there's QEMU, > newlib/libgloss, > > and the Linux kernel.  But, we need to get the ball rolling > somewhere. > > CC:ing Arnd Bergmann regarding the obsolescence in the Linux kernel. > > > Just an FYI that the RTEMS Project plans to drop NIOS II support based > on what happens with the tooling. ACK. Just one more note to the wider audience. I looked at QEMU's user mode support for nios2 on/off over the last couple years. It never seemed to work well enough be able to run the GCC testsuite reliably. As a result, my tester builds nios2 and will run the testsuite, but all the execution tests are only built, they're not actually run. It's been fairly stable, but its not doing in-depth testing. jeff