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From: Thiemo Seufer <ica2_ts@csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
To: binutils@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix distinction of 32/64bit addresses in MIPS gas
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 06:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010907152225.A30834@rembrandt.csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wvng09zw91o.fsf@talisman.cambridge.redhat.com>

Richard Sandiford wrote:
[snip]
> > That's right, but you can't tell if it is actually o32 conformant
> > by looking at the ELF header. There is no flag which says
> > "Warning! This object does not conform to any established ABI".
> > It would be nice to have one.
> 
> Well, there's the O32 flag, which is only set if -mabi=32 is given.
> That bit does guarantee register and address size, just not the lack of
> 64-bit relocs generated by .8byte and the like.  Maybe GAS should warn
> about that?

How could it do that? The o32 ABI does _not_ specify this flag,
a file without any ABI flags set is a valid o32 file. I can't
see what the use of the O32 header flag could be.

[snip]
> > That's all fine for 32bit, but I needed a way to check if 64bit
> > addresses can be used generally (e.g. for dli). Something like
> > ! HAVE_32BIT_ADDRESSES won't do that, because full 64bit support
> > needs a 64bit object format.
> 
> But *limited* 64-bit support is available with elf32 as things stand...
> 
> > Having a HAVE_64BIT_ADDRESSES macro which is _not_ the inverse of
> > HAVE_32BIT_ADDRESSES is ugly.
> 
> ...so I'm still unsure why that's necessary.

I want to have full 64bit support, and it's conceptionally the right
thing to keep the variants of 64bit support at a minimum. AFAICS my
patch doesn't break the limited 64bit support.

> > I also found no reason why there is made use of 64bit instructions
> > like daddiu for a 32bit load. It makes the code look different from
> > o32 while doing the same.
> 
> But if the code was written or compiled with 64-bit addresses in mind,
> it seems natural enough to use daddu in pointer arithmetic.  Does it do
> any harm?

Yes, it inflates the number of variants without need.

> The only reason I can see for making HAVE_32BIT_ADDRESSES any
> stricter is if there's a situation in which code written for 32-bit
> addresses can't be assembled that way as things stand, presumably
> because GAS's command-line options are too inflexible.

Then I would need to distinguish between (! HAVE_32BIT_ADDRESSES)
and HAVE_64BIT_ADDRESSES, building a trap for everyone else.
MIPS gas is really complicated enough with ISA, ABI and object
formats.


Thiemo

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-07  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-24 18:26 Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31  8:02 ` Richard Sandiford
2001-08-31  8:28   ` H . J . Lu
2001-08-31  9:17   ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31  9:53     ` Geoff Keating
2001-08-31 10:31       ` Thiemo Seufer
     [not found]         ` <mailpost.999279120.2469@postal.sibyte.com>
2001-08-31 10:37           ` cgd
2001-08-31 11:46             ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31 11:49               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2001-08-31 11:50               ` Ian Lance Taylor
     [not found]               ` <mailpost.999283589.5294@postal.sibyte.com>
2001-08-31 12:41                 ` cgd
2001-08-31 14:31                   ` H . J . Lu
2001-09-03 23:07                     ` cgd
2001-09-06 10:50                       ` H . J . Lu
2001-09-06 10:59                         ` cgd
2001-09-06 11:07                           ` H . J . Lu
2001-09-06 11:35                             ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-06 11:39                             ` cgd
2001-09-06 11:40                               ` cgd
2001-09-08 12:03                               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-09-08 16:38                                 ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-08 16:56                                   ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-06 11:57                             ` Richard Sandiford
2001-09-06 20:53                               ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-06 21:09                                 ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-06 21:12                                 ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-06 22:38                                   ` H . J . Lu
2001-09-06 23:11                                     ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-07  4:10                                 ` Richard Sandiford
2001-09-07  6:22                                   ` Thiemo Seufer [this message]
2001-09-07  7:02                                     ` Richard Sandiford
2001-09-07  8:11                                       ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-07  9:20                                         ` Richard Sandiford
2001-09-07  9:49                                           ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-06 11:14                           ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-06 11:08                         ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31 18:22                   ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-09-03  2:57                     ` Richard Sandiford
2001-09-03 15:00                       ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31 14:49               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-08-31 15:00                 ` H . J . Lu
2001-08-31 16:30                   ` Eric Christopher
2001-08-31 16:41                     ` Andrew Cagney
2001-08-31 16:46                       ` H . J . Lu
2001-08-31 17:45                         ` matthew green
2001-09-02 19:25                         ` J Grant
2001-08-31 16:44                     ` H . J . Lu
2001-08-31 17:42                       ` matthew green
2001-08-31 19:06                         ` H . J . Lu
2001-08-31 19:11                           ` matthew green
     [not found]                             ` <mailpost.999310274.17560@postal.sibyte.com>
2001-09-03 23:18                               ` cgd
2001-09-06 11:00                                 ` H . J . Lu
2001-09-06 11:38                                   ` cgd
2001-09-06 12:09                                     ` H . J . Lu
2001-08-31 18:49                     ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31 17:35                   ` matthew green
2001-08-31 19:05                     ` H . J . Lu
2001-08-31 18:25                 ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31 20:46                   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2001-08-31 21:04                     ` Thiemo Seufer
2001-08-31 10:04     ` Richard Sandiford
2001-08-31 10:41       ` Thiemo Seufer

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