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From: Bernd Jendrissek <berndj@prism.co.za>
To: "H. J. Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>, "Allan B. Cruse" <cruse@cs.usfca.edu>,
	binutils@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: PATCH: Fix i386 disassembler with index == 0x4 in SIB (Re: objdump bug-report)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050114065505.GB23382@prism.co.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050114000528.GA3408@bubble.modra.org>

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On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:35:28AM +1030, Alan Modra wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:08:49AM -0800, H. J. Lu wrote:
> > IA-32 instruction reference manual says when INDEX == 0x4, scaled index
> > is "[none]". Displaying "(%ebx,2)" is simply wrong here.
> 
> The IA-32 instruction reference manual specifies both instruction
> operation and instruction encoding.  There isn't a one to one mapping
> between encoding and operation on IA-32, sometimes multiple encodings
> are available for a particular operation.
> 
> And that's where I have a philosophical disagreement with Allan Cruse.
> I believe the disassembler should reflect the encoding as much as
> possible, while he seems to believe the disassembler should reflect
> operation.  The trouble with that argument is that taken to its logical
> conclusion we should disassemble
>   0x89,0xf6 as "nop"
>   0x8d,0x76,0x00 as "nop"
>   0x8d,0x74,0x26,0x00 as "nop"
> and so on for all of the zillion different "nop" encodings.

Another nice-to-have is that the disassembled output can be re-assembled
to produce *exactly* the same output binary.

IOW if at all possible, I like to have *complete* control over the
encoding of the assembled instructions, without resorting to .byte et
al.  Of course, this nice-to-have is already broken by addl %edx,%ebx:
is that 01 d3 or is it 03 da?

As to *why* I would want such totalitarian control... well I'll just
deflect and say that anyone nitpicking over (%ebx,2) vs. (%ebx) is
already at the same level of moral turpitude as I.  :-)

Or maybe introduce -Mpedagogical and -Mrealprogrammer?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-14  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20050111210753.0C8CB219E0@nexus.cs.usfca.edu>
2005-01-12 19:10 ` H. J. Lu
2005-01-13  3:44   ` Alan Modra
2005-01-13 17:09     ` H. J. Lu
2005-01-13 17:27       ` H. J. Lu
2005-01-14  0:06       ` Alan Modra
2005-01-14  0:27         ` H. J. Lu
2005-01-14  0:59           ` Alan Modra
2005-01-14 21:49             ` H. J. Lu
2005-01-14  7:04         ` Bernd Jendrissek [this message]
2005-01-13 17:42 Allan B. Cruse
2005-01-14  6:11 Allan B. Cruse
2005-01-14  7:32 ` Bernd Jendrissek
2005-01-14 17:19   ` E. Weddington

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