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From: "H. J. Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>, binutils@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Linker Bug or Design Intent (Absolute symbols in zero sized sections)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:21:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060926161028.GB9105@lucon.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <451941EB.3000207@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:06:19AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> >On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 07:51:59AM -0700, H. J. Lu wrote:
> >
> >>I think for --emit-relocs, we can keep an empty output section if its
> >>address is taken.
> >>
> >>Of course, we need to update linker doc.
> >
> >
> >I think we're being too specific to this case.
> >
> >Why are we changing what the linker script clearly defines as section
> >relative symbols to absolute symbols?  This isn't the only use case
> >I've encountered where that will break.  We should either discard the
> >symbols, or leave the empty section.
> >
> 
> I think retaining the zero sized section might be more logical otherwise 
> a user who has specifically defined a section relative symbol in linker 
> script file will be surprised to know that in some cases symbol is not 
> present at all.


I think removing empty output sections isn't a bad idea. Otherwise,
a normal executable/DSO may have many empty output sections since
the default linker scripts may have many unused output sections.

However, I agree that removing empty output sections shouldn't lead
to many surprises for user. I think linker

1. Should remove an empty output section if it isn't used to define
section relative symbol which may be changed at run time.
2. Shouldn't convert a section relative symbol to absolute symbol
if it may be changed at run time.
3. Should preserve the pre-set constant VMA of an empty output section.

Is there anything I missed?


H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-26 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-26 14:33 Vivek Goyal
2006-09-26 14:49 ` H. J. Lu
2006-09-26 14:52   ` Vivek Goyal
2006-09-26 15:13     ` H. J. Lu
2006-09-26 15:41       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-09-26 15:54         ` Vivek Goyal
2006-09-26 16:21           ` H. J. Lu [this message]
2006-09-26 16:30             ` Vivek Goyal
2006-09-26 16:44               ` H. J. Lu
2006-09-26 16:45                 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-09-26 17:01                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-09-26 23:50                   ` Alan Modra
2006-09-27  1:51                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-09-27  3:09                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-09-26 17:48                 ` Paul Koning
2006-09-26 23:53                   ` Alan Modra
2006-09-28 17:01                     ` Paul Brook
2006-09-28 17:05                       ` Paul Brook
2006-09-28 18:37                       ` H. J. Lu
2006-09-28 18:53                         ` H. J. Lu
2006-10-10 16:41                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-10 16:51                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-11  3:52                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-11  7:12                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-11  8:04                             ` Alan Modra
2006-10-11 14:08                               ` Alan Modra
2006-10-11 14:19                               ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-11 14:45                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-12 10:18                                 ` Alan Modra
2006-10-12 14:37                                   ` Alan Modra
2006-10-13 10:58                                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-13 11:10                                     ` Alan Modra
2006-10-13 11:26                                       ` Alan Modra
2006-10-17 16:02                                   ` Dynamic section symbols, ignored output sections Alan Modra
2006-10-19 14:55                                     ` ligang
2006-10-22  0:25                                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-23 14:13                                       ` Alan Modra
2006-09-29  6:42                       ` Linker Bug or Design Intent (Absolute symbols in zero sized sections) Alan Modra
2006-09-29  8:06                         ` Alan Modra
2006-09-26 16:14         ` H. J. Lu
2006-09-26 16:40           ` Vivek Goyal
2006-09-26 17:57           ` Vivek Goyal
2006-09-26 20:23             ` H. J. Lu

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