From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3606 invoked by alias); 14 Mar 2011 11:35:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 3517 invoked by uid 22791); 14 Mar 2011 11:35:42 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu (HELO mx2.mail.elte.hu) (157.181.151.9) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:35:37 +0000 Received: from elvis.elte.hu ([157.181.1.14]) by mx2.mail.elte.hu with esmtp (Exim) id 1Pz63c-0006YU-9r from ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:35:30 +0100 Received: by elvis.elte.hu (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C5A3E236A; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:35:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:35:00 -0000 From: Ingo Molnar To: Jan Beulich Cc: sedat.dilek@gmail.com, Alan Modra , "H.J. Lu" , Thomas Gleixner , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , binutils , LKML , "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: PATCH: Add --size-check=[error|warning] Message-ID: <20110314113524.GC23257@elte.hu> References: <4D7E095802000078000363D5@vpn.id2.novell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D7E095802000078000363D5@vpn.id2.novell.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-08-17) Received-SPF: neutral (mx2.mail.elte.hu: 157.181.1.14 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of elte.hu) client-ip=157.181.1.14; envelope-from=mingo@elte.hu; helo=elvis.elte.hu; X-ELTE-SpamScore: -2.0 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-2.0 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.3.1 -2.0 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Mailing-List: contact binutils-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: binutils-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2011-03/txt/msg00247.txt.bz2 * Jan Beulich wrote: > >>> On 14.03.11 at 12:02, Sedat Dilek wrote: > > [1] Jan, what do you mean by "side-effects". Can you explain that a > > bit more precisely? > > The -B compiler option controls more than just finding "helper" binaries. > > > [2] Where can someone set a "global behaviour" (hardcoded options) for > > his/her assembler in the kernel's build-system (speaking of > > "--size-check=[error|warning]")? > > Nowhere, selecting behavior is possible only via the command line. > > > [3] Can the kernel-buildsystem check for system's binutils/as version > > and/or its features/options? If yes, where would that be and can you > > offer a snippet for a solution? > > Making the kernel build system check for certain newly introduced > gas options would again require changes to the kernel sources, > which is precisely what is impossible to do for past kernel releases > (and bisection in particular). Yes, and all the counter-arguments here continue to miss that very simple point. That point was made in the first post about this topic and it's still not acknowledged - let alone addressed. This breakage is unnecessary and retroactively goes back 130,000 commits. A warning combined with not issuing the debug symbol would be just as fine and would still result in valid output. Thanks, Ingo