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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Jiong Wang <jiong.wang@foss.arm.com>, mjw@tucnak.zalov.cz
Cc: gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
	       Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
	       "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [1/9][RFC][DWARF] Reserve three DW_OP numbers in vendor extension space
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:18:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161115161817.GL3541@tucnak.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e69bcade-9596-7679-ebfe-d0c56e24f8b5@foss.arm.com>

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 04:00:40PM +0000, Jiong Wang wrote:
> >>   Takes one signed LEB128 offset and retrieves 8-byte contents from the address
> >>   calculated by CFA plus this offset, the contents then authenticated as per A
> >>   key for instruction pointer using current CFA as salt. The result is pushed
> >>   onto the stack.
> >I'd like to point out that especially the vendor range of DW_OP_* is
> >extremely scarce resource, we have only a couple of unused values, so taking
> >3 out of the remaining unused 12 for a single architecture is IMHO too much.
> >Can't you use just a single opcode and encode which of the 3 operations it is
> >in say the low 2 bits of a LEB 128 operand?
> >We'll likely need to do RSN some multiplexing even for the generic GNU
> >opcodes if we need just a few further ones (say 0xff as an extension,
> >followed by uleb128 containing the opcode - 0xff).
> >In the non-vendor area we still have 54 values left, so there is more space
> >for future expansion.
> 
>   Seperate DWARF operations are introduced instead of combining all of them into
> one are mostly because these operations are going to be used for most of the
> functions once return address signing are enabled, and they are used for
> describing frame unwinding that they will go into unwind table for C++ program
> or C program compiled with -fexceptions, the impact on unwind table size is
> significant.  So I was trying to lower the unwind table size overhead as much as
> I can.
> 
>   IMHO, three numbers actually is not that much for one architecture in DWARF
> operation vendor extension space as vendors can overlap with each other.  The
> only painful thing from my understand is there are platform vendors, for example
> "GNU" and "LLVM" etc, for which architecture vendor can't overlap with.

For DW_OP_*, there aren't two vendor ranges like e.g. in ELF, there is just
one range, so ideally the opcodes would be unique everywhere, if not, there
is just a single GNU vendor, there is no separate range for Aarch64, that
can overlap with range for x86_64, and powerpc, etc.

Perhaps we could declare that certain opcode subrange for the GNU vendor is
architecture specific and document that the meaning of opcodes in that range
and count/encoding of their arguments depends on the architecture, but then
we should document how to figure out the architecture too (e.g. for ELF
base it on the containing EM_*).  All the tools that look at DWARF (readelf,
objdump, eu-readelf, libdw, libunwind, gdb, dwz, ...) would need to agree on that
though.

I know nothing about the aarch64 return address signing, would all 3 or say
2 usually appear together without any separate pc advance, or are they all
going to appear frequently and at different pcs?  Perhaps if there is just 1
opcode and has all the info encoded just in one bigger uleb128 or something
similar...

	Jakub

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-15 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <c9da17a6-c3de-4466-c023-4e4ddbe38efb@foss.arm.com>
2016-11-11 18:22 ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-11 19:39   ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-11-15 16:00     ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-15 16:18       ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2016-11-15 16:48         ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-15 19:25           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2016-11-16 10:00             ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-16 13:55               ` Mark Wielaard
2016-11-16 14:02                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-11-30 11:15                   ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-30 18:25                     ` Yao Qi
2016-12-12 13:40                     ` [Ping~][1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Jiong Wang
2016-12-19 13:59                       ` [Ping^2][1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Jiong Wang
2016-12-28 18:21                         ` [Ping^3][1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Jiong Wang
2016-12-28 19:54                     ` [1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Cary Coutant
2017-01-03  9:32                       ` Jiong Wang
2017-01-03 10:10                       ` Jiong Wang
2017-01-03 10:57                         ` Yao Qi
2017-01-03 15:21                           ` Nick Clifton
2017-01-03 17:47                             ` Yao Qi
2016-11-30 21:44                   ` Cary Coutant
2016-12-01 10:42                     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2016-12-01 11:09                       ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-15 16:51         ` Jiong Wang
2016-12-28 19:48     ` Cary Coutant

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