What needs to happen to move this RFC forward? There seems to be at least some support for the idea (attached) Howard Chu wrote: > Michael Matz via Binutils wrote: >> Hello, >> >> this is an RFC for now. When met with some acceptance I'll cobble up a >> similar thing for gold as well and then make the libdep.so plugin only >> emit a warning message that its functionality is obsoleted and moved >> into ld itself. As Cary put it back in 2020 when the plugin was added: >> >> ( https://sourceware.org/pipermail/binutils/2020-December/114536.html ) >> >> "Did I miss any discussion about whether this feature should/could be >> implemented directly in the linkers, rather than via a plugin? I >> wouldn't be opposed to it." > > I'm all for it. I went the plugin route initially because it seemed the > easiest way to get the feature written and accepted but I agree with you, > it'd be much more useful if it was implicitly supported by default. >> >> I pretty much think that yes, the functionality absolutely needs to be in >> the linker itself, not in a plugin, at least if we want to see some use of >> it in the real world. Amusingly I was triggered to look into this by >> libbfd itself: Recently it got a dependency to libsframe and when >> shipping only static archives to build against (which we as distro >> consciously do) that leads to build errors in various 3rdparty packages >> wanting to link against libbfd (no matter how bad an idea that is). Now, >> adding a '-plugin $magicdir/libdep.so' to the build flags of each such >> package is no better than just adding '-lsframe' in each case, so the >> plugin really doesn't help anything. Had the functionality already been >> in the linker itself we could have just added >> "--record-libdeps='-lsframe'" when building libbfd.a and be done with it. >> >> So, let's try to prepare for the future and at least now make ld interpret >> such dependencies on its own. >> >> So, what do people think? >> >> >> Ciao, >> Michael. >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> needing a plugin to interpret static archive dependencies (as added >> by 'ar --record-libdeps') effectively means they are unused. >> Which is too bad, because they are actually useful. So implement >> them in ld itself. > > > -- -- Howard Chu CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/