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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: <kirill.yukhin@intel.com>,"Binutils" <binutils@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] x86/MPX: fix address size handling
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:30:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5255221C02000078000F9DD2@nat28.tlf.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOo82eK4oS8YAPKS0DDRktyiCUc16OqxDH4ujihKjmA7vA@mail.gmail.com>

>>> On 08.10.13 at 17:32, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 08.10.13 at 17:15, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>> While address overrides are ignored in 64-bit mode (and hence shouldn't
>>>> result in an error), trying to use 16-bit addressing is documented to
>>>> result in #UD, and hence the assembler should reject the attempt.
>>>>
>>>> gas/
>>>> 2013-10-08  Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>>>
>>>>         * tc-i386.c (md_assemble): Alter address size checking for MPX
>>>>         instructions.
>>>>
>>>> --- 2013-10-07/gas/config/tc-i386.c
>>>> +++ 2013-10-07/gas/config/tc-i386.c
>>>> @@ -3549,10 +3549,15 @@ md_assemble (char *line)
>>>>    if (i.bnd_prefix && !i.tm.opcode_modifier.bndprefixok)
>>>>      as_bad (_("expecting valid branch instruction after `bnd'"));
>>>>
>>>> -  if (i.tm.cpu_flags.bitfield.cpumpx
>>>> -      && flag_code == CODE_64BIT
>>>> -      && i.prefix[ADDR_PREFIX])
>>>> -    as_bad (_("32-bit address isn't allowed in 64-bit MPX instructions."));
>>>
>>> It is done on purpose.  When 32-bit address prefix in 64-bit is ignored,
>>> MPX doesn't work correctly for x32.
>>
>> I don't understand: It _is_ being ignored by the hardware as per
>> the documentation. So x32 need to get along with that. Maybe
>> an example would help, so I could understand why you think
>> this _needs_ to be an error...
>>
> 
> X32 won't work with MPX since hardware assumes pointer
> size is always 64 bit in 64-bit mode with or without address
> size prefix.  MPX depends on correct pointer size to work.
> I don't want people to use MPX in x32 by accident.

This seems even more odd - why would x32 be excluded from
using MPX? Again - an example might help, as my understanding
so far was that the implicit zero extension of results of 32-bit
operations should guarantee the half width pointers to be quite
fine to use as full width values (i.e. in other memory operands
I don't see why you would want to use 32-bit addressing either,
except when the wraparound case matters, as might e.g. be
the case with EIP-relative addressing).

And in any case - the assembler shouldn't enforce policy, it
should only enforce architectural restrictions.

Bottom line - I continue to be convinced that the diagnostic
we talk about here ought to be a warning, not an error (at
least by default).

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-09  7:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-08 14:36 [PATCH 0/6] x86: various MPX fixes Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 14:41 ` [PATCH 1/6] x86/MPX: testsuite adjustments Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 14:41 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/MPX: fix address size handling Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 15:15   ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-08 15:20     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 15:32       ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-09  7:30         ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2013-10-09 15:45           ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-10 12:27             ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-10 15:18               ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-08 14:42 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86/MPX: suppress base/index swapping in Intel mode for bndmk, bndldx, and bndstx Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 15:16   ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-08 15:23     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 15:34       ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-08 16:00         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 16:19           ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-09  7:15             ` acceptance rules (was: Re: [PATCH 3/6] x86/MPX: suppress base/index swapping ...) Jan Beulich
2013-10-09 16:45               ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-08 14:43 ` [PATCH 4/6] x86/MPX: bndmk, bndldx, and bndstx only allow a memory operand Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 15:28   ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-09  7:24     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-09 15:17       ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-08 14:43 ` [PATCH 5/6] x86/MPX: fix operand size handling Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 15:45   ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-09  7:36     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-09 15:51       ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-10 13:14         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-10 15:14           ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-12 15:58             ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-12 17:12               ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-08 14:44 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86/MPX: bndmk, bndldx, and bndstx don't allow RIP-relative addressing Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 16:13   ` H.J. Lu
2013-10-09  7:40     ` Jan Beulich

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