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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi Johann, > GCC could generate better code for some devices if it could use an > adjusted linker description file for these devices. > > Is it possible to add a new option to the linker so it picks a different > ld script, such that: > > o The same emulation is used. > > o All works a usual, e.g. when the user request -T myscript.ld, use > myscript.ld provided it is a complete ld script and not just INSERT AFTER etc. > > In the case a new emulation is required: > > The compiler has currently around 60 multilib variants, and a new emulation > would add yet another 6 multilibs. Therefore, it would be desirable to > re-use the old multilib (which still has some devices in it). > > Say the old machine is avr:102 and the new one is avr:108, but the generated > code is all the same, only difference is ld script. The compiler would > map avr:108 to avr:102 multilibs. > > What's the best way to implement this in Binutils? Actually it might be easier to implement this using gcc's spec file syntax rather than adding a new linker option. For example gcc [...other gcc options...] --specs=avr108.spec and avr108.spec could contain: *self_spec: + %{!T{-T avr108.ld}} The spec file syntax allows for options to be conditionally added, so in this case a "-T avr108.ld" would be added to the linker command line only if the user has not already provided a -T option of their own. [This is totally not tested by me, but I think that in theory it should work]. Cheers Nick