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That's exactly what one > would want to avoid I would say, and hence a good reason to have the > file generated (no matter how small / trivial it is). That was my original intention indeed, but if I dynamically set the date in version.texi, or in some other place, the user will get a date in the document that depends on when they build binutils. I'm definitely open for suggestions how to address this! Kind regards, Ruud