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From: Ulf Samuelsson <binutils@emagii.com>
To: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
Cc: binutils@sourceware.org, nickc@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/7 SECTOR: Support aligning to flash sector boundary
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 18:57:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95D14810-3DEE-44ED-B071-72BC8C3C3AC0@emagii.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.20.2303101722270.16810@wotan.suse.de>

Since the proposal defines the begin, end and size of a sector as symbols,
you can do already today.
. = ALIGN(”bank00#04#size”).
Right now, the symbols are defined late, but that is easily changed.

Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson

> 10 mars 2023 kl. 18:31 skrev Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2023, Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> 
>>>    . = ALIGN(TOSECTOR)
>> 
>> I considered it, but came to the conclusion that it opens a bag of worms.
>> 
>> To fit this into the grammar, TOSECTOR (or maybe just SECTOR)
>> needs to be a valid expression, returning the size of the flash sector
>> where the location counter is.
>> 
>> Since expressions are available everywhere, you run into situations
>> where it really does not make sense for "SECTOR" to have a value.
> 
> So, make SECTOR an expression taking an address as well.  Call it 
> SECTORSIZE and make it return the sector size for the given argument (an 
> address, so that 'dot' can be given in output sections), or 1 if no sector 
> is associated with the argument.  Then your alignment expression will 
> become
> 
>  . = ALIGN(SECTORSIZE(.))
> 
> and SECTORSIZE now _can_ make sense in other than output sections (when 
> you for instance give it, say, a symbolname defined elsewhere in an 
> utput section).
> 
>> To create an function which collapses 100+ statements into a single 
>> expression may stress the expression evaluator in unpredictable ways.
>> 
>> Have the linker been tested with 100-200 lines+ expressions?
> 
> Yes.  Such thoughts shouldn't prevent an orthogonal implementation of 
> features anyway.  You can also open-code the implementation of SECTORSIZE 
> with a helper routine, not resorting to linkerscript expressions at all, 
> if you worry about performance of that.
> 
>> The alternative that I could consider is to add it in the Output Section 
>> Description There you can specify ALIGN_WITH_INPUT which has a similar 
>> syntax as ALIGN_SECTOR so alignment is specified either using an 
>> expression or a special keyword already today.
> 
> I think having it available as expression to be used in ALIGN (or other) 
> expressions is the better choice.
> 
> 
> Ciao,
> Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-10 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-10  0:08 binutils
2023-03-10  0:08 ` [PATCH v1 1/7] SECTOR: NEWS binutils
2023-03-10  0:08 ` [PATCH v1 2/7] SECTOR: ld.texi binutils
2023-03-10  0:08 ` [PATCH v1 3/7] SECTOR: ldlex.l binutils
2023-03-10  0:08 ` [PATCH v1 4/7] SECTOR: ldgram.y binutils
2023-03-10  0:08 ` [PATCH v1 5/7] SECTOR: language additions binutils
2023-03-10  0:08 ` [PATCH v1 6/7] SECTOR: add testsuite binutils
2023-03-10  0:08 ` [PATCH v1 7/7] SECTOR: Makefile.* binutils
2023-03-10  3:46 ` [PATCH v1 0/7 SECTOR: Support aligning to flash sector boundary Alan Modra
2023-03-10 14:13 ` Michael Matz
2023-03-10 17:01   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2023-03-10 17:30     ` Michael Matz
2023-03-10 17:57       ` Ulf Samuelsson [this message]
2023-03-13 13:12         ` Michael Matz
2023-03-13 15:29           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2023-03-13 15:54             ` Michael Matz
2023-03-13 17:26               ` Ulf Samuelsson
2023-03-13 17:35                 ` Michael Matz

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