From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
"Jiang, Haochen" <haochen.jiang@intel.com>,
wwwhhhyyy <hongyu.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: fold AVX512-VNNI disassembler entries with AVX-VNNI ones
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:10:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOrJUKxAKQzrds0Wct06Sh6Kv5+YQSeL9zqCFbJRaYNuCg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90899ac8-cc4f-52f1-9498-5e7f87fe6355@suse.com>
On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 11:39 PM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On 14.10.2022 19:28, H.J. Lu wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:22 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Make %XV also print the separating blank in the VEX case, while making
> >> it do nothing for EVEX-encoded insns. This way the AVX-VNNI entries
> >> can be re-used for AVX512-VNNI, at the same time fixing the lack of
> >> EVEX.W decoding.
> >>
> >> For the AVX-VNNI ones further make sure only VEX.66 forms are actually
> >> decoded.
> >> ---
> >> Irrespective of this change I continue to disagree with the arbitrary
> >> printing of "{vex}" for the AVX-VNNI insns: If that's meant for
> >> disambiguation purposes, then EVEX-encoded insns not using EVEX-specific
> >> functionality by having VEX counterparts (vaddps %xmm0, %xmm0, %xmm0)
> >> should also be prefixed by "{evex}".
> >
> > This is done to match the assembler. There are 3 kinds of VNNI processors:
> >
> > 1. AVX512-VNNI only.
> > 2. AVX-VNNI only.
> > 3. AVX512-VNNI and AVX-VNNI.
> >
> > Since AVX512-VNNI came out first, all VNNI instructions without a prefix
> > are encoded as AVX512-VNNI. The existing VNNI instructions without
> > a prefix, generated by compiler or hand written, are encoded with EVEX.
> > If one needs VNNI with VEX encoding, the {vex} prefix should be used.
>
> ... if, as said, AVX512 wasn't turned off altogether.
>
> With your model, just look at how odd code using both AVX-VNNI and
> AVX-VNNI-INT8 then looks:
>
> vpdpbssd %ymm0, %ymm5, %ymm6
> vpdpbsud %ymm1, %ymm5, %ymm6
> {vex} vpdpbusd %ymm2, %ymm5, %ymm6
> vpdpbuud %ymm3, %ymm5, %ymm6
>
> Yes, one could further clutter this and add {vex} to every line. But
> why would anyone want to clutter their code?
This ensures that VNNI instructions without a prefix are encoded
with EVEX.
> Plus the same argument then applies to AVX512VL: This came out later than
> AVX, and the assembler (necessarily) requires {evex} to actually encode
> these (when there are AVX equivalents). Hence to match the assembler, the
> disassembler then also ought to emit {evex} for this subset of encodings.
A patch is welcome.
> Jan
>
> > This applies to any AVX extensions which come after EVEX ones, including
> > AVX-IFMA.
>
--
H.J.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-17 21:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-14 10:22 Jan Beulich
2022-10-14 17:28 ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-17 6:39 ` Jan Beulich
2022-10-17 21:10 ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2022-10-18 5:41 ` Jan Beulich
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