From: Fangrui Song <i@maskray.me>
To: Katharina Bogad <katharina@bogad.at>
Cc: Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com>,
"binutils@sourceware.org" <binutils@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Readelf: --wide as default if output is redirected
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 08:59:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <MWHPR12MB145657212B9E5A995F9AC4C3CB3E0@MWHPR12MB1456.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B224734B-F220-4A9B-A686-708B95BFBFE0@bogad.at>
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 3:36 AM Katharina Bogad via Binutils
<binutils@sourceware.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> > Which version of readelf ?
>
> 2.31 and 2.24. I am kind of stuck with the latter one because it belongs to
> an embedded systems development SDK I have no control over.
>
> > I added a new feature to the 2.35 release so that by default readelf will
> > suffix truncated symbol names with "[...]", thus letting the reader know
> > that the name has been abbreviated.
>
> Yeah, that at least makes it obvious. Thank you!
>
> > Yeah, I think that changing the default behaviour like this would be a bad
> > idea. But of course you can always create a wrapper script that adds the --wide
> > option (and maybe invokes the pager at the same time).
>
> Well, my argument would be that redirection is good for basically three
> things:
> - archival
> - automated processing
> - reading in a pager
>
> Truncating the output IMO does not add value in any of these cases; with
> the obvious exception being pagers that can’t be configured to not wrap lines.
> In fact, I’d make the argument that it is counter-productive for archival and
> automated processing (you’d have to pass --wide anyways to get accurate
> results, and it was definitely a gotcha for me, making the behaviour non-
> obvious). Maybe I am missing something, but I can’t think of a use-case
> where truncating would add value besides viewing in a width-restricted
> terminal.
>
> But really, I’m fine either way. Future me will thank you for the dots once I
> forget that --wide is a thing and binutils >=2.35 has hit my toolchains.
>
> Best,
> Katharina
Yeah, I created an alias 're' for 'readelf -W'. Sometimes I need to
provide a command for others and omitting -W has always caused me
trouble.
To provide a data point, llvm-readelf supports only the wide format
and ignores --wide. It turns out that most projects don't need a
change.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-17 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-16 16:06 Katharina Bogad
2020-09-16 18:01 ` H.J. Lu
2020-09-17 9:55 ` Nick Clifton
2020-09-17 10:36 ` Katharina Bogad
2020-09-17 15:37 ` Nick Clifton
2020-09-17 15:59 ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2020-09-18 13:57 ` Mark Wielaard
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