From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-x435.google.com (mail-pf1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::435]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5048385734B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2022 15:04:22 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org B5048385734B Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=adacore.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=adacore.com Received: by mail-pf1-x435.google.com with SMTP id i3so16623094pfc.11 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2022 08:04:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adacore.com; s=google; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aDIPisiOhsOyiGN5KSGJke0InuT3fV8Cb9QCSlBym5I=; b=FdNtUhfL6a7VtCYJqkwFUjJmD57IA8a9pLryYRwspYPHkmLjePdZZtgQMxeq9pPJFl jGUf7SqrzwzIfcaCDcttp8m2GoV+VX0fLi+ySfhIX8LY8WRKVgGM+9BdcX6Bjf2iBeGU vFKOP709M0OARNKazUawS1UpavyVtQBPnf6rfaRSLK7NXzaYdZ/bvyz3hJgc77IJIh6m t/kS76y/RqsQazE4OXdIOSjvS+auAq0R/7NeEhndsRBmx0VqeXooW/UO/GIkz2LxnPgg lmkOyaDxR2BMIIZq5gaI/s3lmvTv6CITOaatYIx4yV0xVYVJ/fEOHy1Yv4zL9MYcnWzx 4NKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=aDIPisiOhsOyiGN5KSGJke0InuT3fV8Cb9QCSlBym5I=; b=07iso3QXPyoU7KJK5x28tNLfbY5UYVxuz0C2QaA1UWunRD8SiFI6xv3k3N+/GDgc4D Xq2MbCCSdGbZm64xcRxpvU7h53KV6G2czGCjhDbrWFJA6Ri4mqRperk+kMYoz25ptbvt Rr4HpF0NCmVxJys+Ac74swit67e7Rxa+Ahphj7hfPcBHCqr2QBTbeCi+ZgSGigrQJSJh qAXTO6m1SxWL6HBSFci5Y4eSBrdANzEswkoI7brqLS9RGuAXG98gC5AanXMtSjwyXo9n fZewjW1bJEMykykayO8OJC5f464li9AzckrfAhS3MlTKLxMgcWXIGQyClnmJw216FZxB jrAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0UTbQpPoOEjIwiDKh/Gi7kakT0KwdkZN3oLEv36PoUjxV3nnJB fPnGuME7AwbDeTq1vlSsjJo0E/mlKWNI X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4qVU/BT1UMC5IoUih+qd5SmqOIDAWGSfhqZhfLRqe/QYh8riMT81tOqiv8F0t3000VHH1Fyg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:4504:b0:56b:3ed4:1fac with SMTP id cw4-20020a056a00450400b0056b3ed41facmr25589087pfb.73.1667401461757; Wed, 02 Nov 2022 08:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from takamaka.gnat.com ([184.69.131.86]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2-20020a620502000000b0056203db46ffsm8839085pff.172.2022.11.02.08.04.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 02 Nov 2022 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by takamaka.gnat.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 37B7084305; Wed, 2 Nov 2022 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 08:04:20 -0700 From: Joel Brobecker To: Nick Clifton Cc: joel@rtems.org, Mike Frysinger , Joel Brobecker , Nick Clifton via Binutils Subject: Re: A GNU Binutils wiki Message-ID: References: <71067e2b-f43b-2be8-ea4a-88ead1dd6e56@redhat.com> <4ca81bcb-c569-7d9d-a243-fea12bfead52@redhat.com> <87fb1712-d568-46fc-aa47-733ff6931171@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87fb1712-d568-46fc-aa47-733ff6931171@redhat.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: > > Sorry to be negative. I like the "control" in source code control > > and a wiki is lacking there. > > That's fine. It is good to have an opinion and I am glad that you > are willing to express it. My counter would be - what can we do instead ? > > I know that most of the information intended for the wiki can be found > by digging through the sources, but that will not work for people who > are not already deeply familiar with the binutils. So I wanted to create > a place where people with at least some experience with other part(s) of > the GNU toolchain would expect to be able to find information on the > binutils. > > Plus I wanted to provide a location for binutils users and contributor to > be able to provide their own content. Descriptions of the problems that > they encountered whilst porting the binutils; advice for users of small > devices that need custom linker scripts in order to work properly and so > on. > > Plus a location with responses to frequently asked questions(tm) which we > can use when answering those I-have-found-a-name-mangling-bug and > why-doesn't-the-assembler-auto-correct-my-bugs type questions on the > mailing list. To have perfect documentation, we'd need someone willing to act as its curator, and that's a big job, no matter what technology you use. FWIW I do feel that the wiki has been a positive addition for GDB. While it hasn't been perfect, it has has lowered the barrier for contributing changes to this part of the project's documentation. We have had contributions from users who normally do not contribute to the GDB project itself as well. -- Joel