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From: Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com>
To: binutils@sourceware.org, Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com,
	richard.sandiford@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH,V4 4/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of arithmetic insns
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:53:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5173100-2529-40cd-9d60-c19119d8d073@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mptwmlrpy68.fsf@arm.com>

On 7/11/24 11:43, Richard Sandiford wrote:
> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> writes:
>> On 7/11/24 05:52, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> writes:
>>>> On 7/1/24 11:13, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>>>> Indu Bhagat <indu.bhagat@oracle.com> writes:
>>>>>> [Changes in V4]
>>>>>> - Specify subclasses only for those iclasses relevent to SCFI:
>>>>>>      addsub_imm, and addsub_ext
>>>>>> [End of changes in V4]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [No changes in V3]
>>>>>> [New in V2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Use the three new subclass flags: F_ARITH_ADD, F_ARITH_SUB,
>>>>>> F_ARITH_MOV, to indicate add, sub and mov ops respectively.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> opcodes/
>>>>>>        * aarch64-tbl.h: Use the new F_ARITH_* flags.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h | 30 +++++++++++++++---------------
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h b/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h
>>>>>> index 6e523db6277..57727254d43 100644
>>>>>> --- a/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h
>>>>>> +++ b/opcodes/aarch64-tbl.h
>>>>>> @@ -3205,22 +3205,22 @@ const struct aarch64_opcode aarch64_opcode_table[] =
>>>>>>       CORE_INSN ("sbcs", 0x7a000000, 0x7fe0fc00, addsub_carry, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn, Rm), QL_I3SAMER, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>>       CORE_INSN ("ngcs", 0x7a0003e0, 0x7fe0ffe0, addsub_carry, 0, OP2 (Rd, Rm),     QL_I2SAME,  F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>>       /* Add/subtract (extended register).  */
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x0b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x2b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x2b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x4b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x6b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x6b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x0b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_ADD | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x2b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_ADD | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x2b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x4b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT), QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_SUB | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x6b200000, 0x7fe00000, addsub_ext, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),    QL_I3_EXT, F_ARITH_SUB | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x6b20001f, 0x7fe0001f, addsub_ext, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, Rm_EXT),        QL_I2_EXT, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>>       /* Add/subtract (immediate).  */
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x11000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, OP_ADD, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("mov",  0x11000000, 0x7ffffc00, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP),       QL_I2SP, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x31000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x3100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x51000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x71000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x7100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> -  MEMTAG_INSN ("addg",  0x91800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, 0),
>>>>>> -  MEMTAG_INSN ("subg",  0xd1800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, 0),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("add",  0x11000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, OP_ADD, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_ADD | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("mov",  0x11000000, 0x7ffffc00, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP),       QL_I2SP, F_ARITH_MOV | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("adds", 0x31000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_ADD | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmn",  0x3100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("sub",  0x51000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, AIMM), QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_SUB | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("subs", 0x71000000, 0x7f000000, addsub_imm, 0, OP3 (Rd, Rn_SP, AIMM),    QL_R2NIL, F_ARITH_SUB | F_HAS_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  CORE_INSN ("cmp",  0x7100001f, 0x7f00001f, addsub_imm, 0, OP2 (Rn_SP, AIMM),        QL_R1NIL, F_SUBCLASS_OTHER | F_ALIAS | F_SF),
>>>>>> +  MEMTAG_INSN ("addg",  0x91800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, F_ARITH_ADD),
>>>>>> +  MEMTAG_INSN ("subg",  0xd1800000, 0xffc0c000, addsub_imm, OP4 (Rd_SP, Rn_SP, UIMM10, UIMM4_ADDG), QL_ADDG, F_ARITH_SUB),
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose this raises the question: is GINSN_TYPE_ADD specifically
>>>>> for address arithmetic, or is it a normal addition?  If it's a
>>>>> normal addition then ADDG doesn't really fit.  If it's address
>>>>> arithmetic then it might be worth making the names more explicit.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Apologies, my brain tricked me into reading the above as "is F_ARITH_ADD
>> specifically for address arithmetic or is it normal addition?" all this
>> time until now, and hence, what might appear as a confused reply in the
>> previous email.
>>
>> Hopefully I have not digressed too far.
>>
>>>> For SCFI, we are interested in the insns which may have manipulated
>>>> REG_SP and REG_FP, so the intention is around address arithmetic.
>>>>
>>>> ATM, we generate ginsn for _all_ add, sub (and mov) in the iclass
>>>> addsub_imm, addsub_ext (and movewide..), irrespective of whether the
>>>> destination is REG_SP/REG_FP or not.
>>>>
>>>> IOW, "keep the ginsn creation code not tied to GINSN_GEN_SCFI" has been
>>>> followed where affordable.
>>>
>>> I think this is useful even for SCFI, since large stack allocations could
>>> be done using intermediate calculations into temporary registers.
>>>
>>
>> Yes to using intermediate calculations into temporary registers.  This
>> is true especially for aarch64 where we may see patterns like:
>>
>>           mov     x16, 4384
>>           add     sp, sp, x16
>>
>> (which I would like to support for SCFI/aarch64 next.  Adding support
>> for this means enabling some data flow for sp traceability; SCFI does
>> not have much of data flow ATM.)
>>
>> But I am not sure if the GINSN_TYPE_ADD / GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR
>> demarcation will be useful for SCFI because: effectively GINSN_TYPE_ADD
>> with dest as REG_SP/REG_FP is address arithmetic for SCFI. SCFI can (and
>> does) ignore the rest of GINSN_TYPE_ADD / GINSN_TYPE_SUB ops.
>>
>>>> I dont have a good new name (F_ADDR_ARITH_* ?);  I personally find
>>>> F_ADDR_ARITH_*  unsuitable because this new name ties the
>>>> subclassification to the current usecase (SCFI and its need to see those
>>>> address arithmetic).  But may be I am overthinking.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a suggestion, please let me know.
>>>
>>> The distinction between a full addition and address addition sounds
>>> like it could be generally useful, beyond just SCFI.  How abot having
>>> both GINSN_TYPE_ADD and GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR?  Places that are only
>>> interested in address arithmetic can treat both types in the same way.
>>> Types that want natural addition can handle GINSN_TYPE_ADD only.
>>>
>>
>> The distinction may be useful for usecases other than SCFI, true;
>> depending on the usecase.
>>
>> I think my nervousness with the explicit demarcation using two type of
>> ginsns, GINSN_TYPE_ADD and GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR now, is on the generation
>> side:
>>
>>    - Wont we simply look at the destination register being REG_SP /
>> REG_FP in some cases to pick GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR instead of
>> GINSN_TYPE_ADD.  If so, GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR contains no more information
>> than GINSN_TYPE_ADD in those cases.
> 
> I was thinking the distinction between GINSN_TYPE_ADD and GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR
> would be based on the opcode rather than the register.  ADDG would be
> GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR (since it adds "enough bits" to support address
> arithmetic, but does not carry into the tag bits).  ADD would instead be
> GINSN_TYPE_ADD (since it's a full-register add).  Both mappings would be
> independent of the destination register.
> 
> I'm just nervous about saying that ADD and ADDG are the same operation,
> unless that operation is specifically described as being for addresses only.
> 
> Another option would be to leave ADDG and SUBG as "other" for the
> initial patch and deal with them as a follow-on.
> 

Right. Your concern is valid.  ADDG/SUBG should not be tagged as 
F_ARITH_ADD/F_ARITH_SUB.  I have changed these to F_SUBCLASS_OTHER.

In hindsight, in V4, tc-aarch64-ginsn.c would generate vanilla 
GINSN_TYPE_ADD/GINSN_TYPE_SUB with no regard to the _scaling_ (As per 
specification: "ADDG adds an immediate value scaled by the Tag granule 
to the address in the source register").

Now in V5, we will generate GINSN_TYPE_OTHER (via the 
aarch64_ginsn_unhandled () codepath) if an addg/subg is seen to affect 
correctness.

>>    - Also, for other ISAs, I am not sure ATM if this will make things
>> more complicated on the ginsn creation side as other rules to pick
>> GINSN_TYPE_ADD_ADDR vs GINSN_TYPE_ADD may be involved. And not all might
>> be implementable at the time of ginsn creation (as some def-use analysis
>> may be necessary to demarcate them?)
> 
> I think all other ISAs would just use GINSN_TYPE_ADD, unless they're
> doing a similar tag operation to ADDG/SUBG.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-12 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-01  2:53 [PATCH,V4 0/8] Add SCFI support for aarch64 Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:53 ` [PATCH,V4 1/8] gas: scfi: make scfi_state_restore_reg function more precise Indu Bhagat
2024-07-12 15:03   ` [PATCH, V4 " Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:53 ` [PATCH,V4 2/8] include: opcodes: aarch64: define new subclasses Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 17:40   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  5:14     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 12:22       ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11 17:59         ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:53 ` [PATCH,V4 3/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of ldst insns Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 18:06   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  5:45     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-12 13:59       ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-13  7:34         ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 4/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of arithmetic insns Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 18:13   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  5:47     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 12:52       ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11 17:58         ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 18:43           ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-12 12:53             ` Indu Bhagat [this message]
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 5/8] opcodes: aarch64: flags to denote subclasses of uncond branches Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 6/8] opcodes: aarch64: enforce checks on subclass flags in aarch64-gen.c Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 7/8] gas: aarch64: add experimental support for SCFI Indu Bhagat
2024-07-01 19:49   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11  6:30     ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 13:15       ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-11 19:07         ` Indu Bhagat
2024-07-11 20:10           ` Richard Sandiford
2024-07-01  2:54 ` [PATCH,V4 8/8] gas: aarch64: testsuite: add new tests " Indu Bhagat

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