* Re: ☠ Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
[not found] ` <Y9djb4iMA8kySL0F@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
@ 2023-01-30 13:46 ` Sam James
2023-01-31 2:31 ` Jerry D
[not found] ` <e5e8e6d1dbde5e24246eba9b964b3af3627a6ee3.camel@klomp.org>
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From: Sam James @ 2023-01-30 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sgk; +Cc: Jerry D, GCC Mailing List, buildbot
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> On 30 Jan 2023, at 06:27, Steve Kargl via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
Hi Steve,
> Please remove the skull and cross bones in the subject line.
This is a sourceware project so I've CC'd the buildbot mailing list where we discuss
these matters.
Does the emoji bother you, or is it the skull and crossbones specifically (which is
a recognised symbol for a hazard)?
Note that this is the default upstream from the Buildbot project (we use their
software) too. We haven't chosen it ourselves.
Thanks,
sam
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* Re: ☠ Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
2023-01-30 13:46 ` ☠ Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master) Sam James
@ 2023-01-31 2:31 ` Jerry D
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From: Jerry D @ 2023-01-31 2:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam James, sgk; +Cc: GCC Mailing List, buildbot
On 1/30/23 5:46 AM, Sam James wrote:
>
>
>> On 30 Jan 2023, at 06:27, Steve Kargl via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
>> Please remove the skull and cross bones in the subject line.
>
> This is a sourceware project so I've CC'd the buildbot mailing list where we discuss
> these matters.
>
> Does the emoji bother you, or is it the skull and crossbones specifically (which is
> a recognised symbol for a hazard)?
>
> Note that this is the default upstream from the Buildbot project (we use their
> software) too. We haven't chosen it ourselves.
>
> Thanks,
> sam
As long as your asking it just looks stupid, childish to think anyone
needs an emoji in what we try think is a professional product. ( Too
informal? )
If that's not enough, how about corny, or something for 12 year olds.
Yep, it's just stupid. I don't have an issue with bots, I just don't
need emojis outside of my personal chats on my phone.
If it is suppose to be a notification, how about just the word "Alert"
or "Notice"
Regards,
Jerry
Jerry
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* Re: Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
[not found] ` <Y9hJoAKNPFU65saq@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
@ 2023-01-31 13:13 ` Thomas Schwinge
2023-01-31 14:38 ` LIU Hao
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From: Thomas Schwinge @ 2023-01-31 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sgk
Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, Thomas Koenig, Mark Wielaard, Sam James, fortran,
Jerry D, gcc, buildbot
Hi!
On 2023-01-30T14:50:08-0800, Steve Kargl via Fortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> Does the skull and crossbones convey anymore info than the rest of
> the subject line
>
> Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
They convey as much additional information as does (automated) colorful
syntax highlighting, or (manual) source code line indentation: "none" to
some, "a lot" to others.
Grüße
Thomas
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* Re: Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
2023-01-31 13:13 ` Thomas Schwinge
@ 2023-01-31 14:38 ` LIU Hao
2023-01-31 20:18 ` Steve Kargl
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From: LIU Hao @ 2023-01-31 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Schwinge, sgk
Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, Thomas Koenig, Mark Wielaard, Sam James, fortran,
Jerry D, gcc, buildbot
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在 2023-01-31 21:13, Thomas Schwinge 写道:
> Hi!
>
> On 2023-01-30T14:50:08-0800, Steve Kargl via Fortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>> Does the skull and crossbones convey anymore info than the rest of
>> the subject line
>>
>> Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
>
> They convey as much additional information as does (automated) colorful
> syntax highlighting, or (manual) source code line indentation: "none" to
> some, "a lot" to others.
>
>
First, I'd argue that 'emoji characters imply spammer' makes little sense. Everyone can examine the
source of all messages in this thread and their `X-Spam-Status` headers. The fact is that, so far no
message had been given a tag for having emoji/bad/obfuscated characters in its subject.
Second, I also agree that the skull carries NO additional information. What happened? Where did it
happen? How severe was it? What should we do about it? A skull is neither descriptive nor
informative, and is very unfriendly for message filters. A tag there might look much more helpful,
such as [BUILDBOT] or [FAIL].
--
Best regards,
LIU Hao
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* Re: Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
2023-01-31 14:38 ` LIU Hao
@ 2023-01-31 20:18 ` Steve Kargl
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Steve Kargl @ 2023-01-31 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: LIU Hao
Cc: Thomas Schwinge, Gerald Pfeifer, Thomas Koenig, Mark Wielaard,
Sam James, fortran, Jerry D, gcc, buildbot
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 10:38:02PM +0800, LIU Hao wrote:
> 在 2023-01-31 21:13, Thomas Schwinge 写道:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On 2023-01-30T14:50:08-0800, Steve Kargl via Fortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> > > Does the skull and crossbones convey anymore info than the rest of
> > > the subject line
> > >
> > > Buildbot (Sourceware): gcc - failed configure (failure) (master)
> >
> > They convey as much additional information as does (automated) colorful
> > syntax highlighting, or (manual) source code line indentation: "none" to
> > some, "a lot" to others.
> >
> >
>
> First, I'd argue that 'emoji characters imply spammer' makes little sense.
> Everyone can examine the source of all messages in this thread and their
> `X-Spam-Status` headers. The fact is that, so far no message had been given
> a tag for having emoji/bad/obfuscated characters in its subject.
>
The irony! Your email ended up in one of my spam folders.
X-junkfilter: 20020519
X-Spammer: bodychk-domains: 126.com>
domains: 126.com
--
Steve
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