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From: Dave Brolley <brolley@redhat.com>
To: Brian Mokrzycki <brian-mokrzycki@uiowa.edu>
Cc: cgen@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: 64-bit instruction word w/ multiple opcodes
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:42:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48DA51A1.3040807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57807CC5-2368-4AA7-B2B8-4B712925A8FA@uiowa.edu>

Brian Mokrzycki wrote:
> I apologize if this message is inappropriate for this mailing list, 
> but I didn't find an alternative.
>
>
> This is my first attempt at porting the binutils to a new 
> architecture.  I have quite a few questions.  The processor I'm 
> targeting is a custom build DSP processor with static 64-bit 
> instruction words.  Each 64-bit word is actually encodes two separate 
> instructions.  The first 43 bits are used as general integer 
> instructions (integer arithmetic, load/stores, branching).  The final 
> 21 bits encode a floating point operation.  An instruction word will 
> always be encoded into 64-bits even if the integer and/or fop 
> operation are NOPs.
>
> 63----------INT-----------21   20----FP----0
You certainly picked an interesting chip for your first attempt!
>
> I've been struggling with cgen to describe this correctly.  I would 
> like the assembly to show these two operations per line allowing the 
> programmer to visualize how things are flowing between these 
> functional units.  This idea was taken from m32r port.  An example is 
> as follows:
>
> ld r0,r3,r2    ||    fadd f2,f3,f4
>
>
> How should I describe this in cgen?  Since the integer and fp opcodes 
> are really independent of each other I could define them as seperate 
> ISAs.    THe problem with defining them as one 43 bit and one 21 bit 
> ISA is that bfd really likes things to be byte aligned. So that gave 
> me problems.  Is there a way to get around this?
The mep port is similar to this in that it combines core and coprocessor 
insns into bundles. It was done using separate ISAs as you have 
suggested. The assembler outputs them in the way you describe, so it may 
be a starting point for you to look at. The issue is, of course the 
43-21 bit alignment. I think you could get around this by defining the 
integer ISA to be 64 bits wide (with an unused 21 bit operand at the end 
of each insn) and the other to be 32 bits wide (with an unused 11 bit 
operand at the start of each insn). After processing the integer insn, 
you would need to reset the PC before processing the floating point insn.
>
> I also tried using insn_macros in an attempt to have cgen identify 
> multiple mnemonics per line.  This went no where.  Possible?
>
>   Finally, I tried yet another approach by combined all the int & fp 
> ops into one ISA.  Each single mnemonic was encoded as a 64-bit word.  
> I then edited md_assemble to merge the two together into the final 
> word.  Well that seemed to work alright for assembly, but now 
> dissassembly is giving me problems.   Multiple instruction mneumonics 
> have the same encodings, so it ends up decoding to the first "correct" 
> hash it encounters in the dis hash.  Which isn't always correct.
Can you give an example of different insn mnemonics which have the same 
encoding?
>
> The last method gave me partial success but I'm wondering, is there an 
> easier way to do this?
>
> On a separate note.  Is there support for 64-bit instructions?  
> Because I had to hack a few places to make that work.
The mep port has 64 bit insns. If you post your changes, they may be 
useful for others down the road.

I hope this helps,
Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-24 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-23  4:36 Brian Mokrzycki
2008-09-24 14:42 ` Dave Brolley [this message]
2008-11-11 20:54   ` Brian Mokrzycki

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