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From: Mike Ray <mike@raspberryvi.org>
To: crossgcc@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 00:37:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56D8D8E4.2060700@raspberryvi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FA30FDD7-5B2B-46DF-99A2-9757E6BEDB36@gmail.com>

On 04/03/2016 00:31, Bryan Hundven wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Mike Ray <mike@raspberryvi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03/03/2016 17:13, Bryan Hundven wrote:
>>>> Branch: refs/heads/master
>>>> Home:   https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng
>>>> Commit: 1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>>>     https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>>> Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>>> Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>>>>
>>>> Changed paths:
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>>>>
>>>> Log Message:
>>>> -----------
>>>> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>>>>
>>>> This is a aarch64 raspberry pi 3 sample.
>>>>
>>>> Please test!
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Commit: bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>>>     https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>>> Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>>> Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>>>>
>>>> Changed paths:
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>>>>
>>>> Log Message:
>>>> -----------
>>>> Merge pull request #362 from bhundven/rpi_aarch64_sample
>>>>
>>>> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Compare: https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/compare/0f76cad2f078...bd460e8872dd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Toolchain built and helloworld app compiled.
>>>
>>> Not sure if you intended for the name of the sample to be prefixed
>>> 'aarch' instead of 'arch':
>>>
>>> 	aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/
>>
>> Yes, aarch64. It’s “arm arch 64” ;)
>> They also call arm 32-bit aarch32, but config.sub still search for arm* instead of aarch32.
>>
>>>
>>> Output of `file helloworld`:
>>>
>>> 	helloworld: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV),
>>> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1, for
>>> GNU/Linux 4.0.4, not stripped
>>
>> Looks good!
>>
>>>
>>> Built on 64-bit Debian Jessie.
>>>
>>> Of course helloworld won't run on my Pi3 with 32-bit Raspbian.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>>
>>> Did you intend this sample to not be hard-float? (I don't know whether
>>> the Cortex A53 is HF or not).
>>
>> Dang, I new I felt like I was jumping the gun when I merged. I’ll fix that.
> 
> And that is a nope:
> (Quoting ARM.com)
> Hard-float ABI by default in ARMv8-A
> 
> So we should be good here.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> There is some debate on the Foundation site whether running 64-bit with
>>> only 1GB of RAM is much of a gain but it will be interesting finding out.
>>
>> It’s true. There really isn’t much bonus to running in 64-bit mode without more memory.
>>
>>>
>>> Foundation forum mods and developers haven't mentioned whether
>>> boot-loader needs to be 64-bit as well.
>>
>> Are they releasing 64-bit firmware files?
>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Bryan
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Bryan
> 

I haven't seen anything on the Foundation forum pages that suggest there
are any plans at the moment to do so, apart from someone saying the
'Raspbian guys are investigating the possibility".

I have no idea whether the boot-loader is bitness-independent or not,
but I found no suggestion it isn't.

I don't know much about the finer points of architectures but I will
give a kernel compile a go (when I have recreated the toolchain with HF)
just for the hell of it.  It'll probably crash and burn.

Mike



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Michael A. Ray
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-04  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 17:13 Bryan Hundven
2016-03-03 20:33 ` Mike Ray
2016-03-04  0:25   ` Bryan Hundven
2016-03-04  0:31     ` Bryan Hundven
2016-03-04  0:37       ` Mike Ray [this message]
2016-03-04 10:26   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)

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