From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd41.google.com (mail-io1-xd41.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C17623858D35 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:20:56 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org C17623858D35 Received: by mail-io1-xd41.google.com with SMTP id h10so4032725ioq.6 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GVYa8bvD6x5mg/sGea2TjysFVlNqijMsLN+Zsxex81o=; b=aTuVeExcWW/dvZOgl5DUhFJHaQwHDU4J2H5wAa909eZ2sLXwTt8Ro0qhtwqBLqUPFa ye3GyjRb0Tp3zbGIn6i6CCoOQdzLDMBC4Fw+K06KLBdBN5/LXfQp307ifsW7+OIpKey1 UJevj2bOFPQuHMqpYGITZ8dho0bPinCib+mLjx3HHOAItLfJnDVgcxjAQihjEPp1CL6s a5jUvvGeq0l17+eCnFctj5VlMsnzfNns38Ex76Mcx1cci6GmnAeqOsAoNiwz0OasM0rt IyYVx8I+fZ3w0RTiWg4w6rkVqsrExSXYdhSkNcYDUIiKW3T8kYjRV1oDcHu4te1VnRr6 vptQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533M0z+CRSJChiaPYN9m/H3q/i1kJGATiGVvwbl4on5OHFm23+n0 mt6Sn1cd+xMuiiXQ8cUJjxs4CM0Sjrhx1BKiCL4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxYtP2Jqe6Nj0dgDa5kxL0Y6ekNQAjSJkG8ueq4QvhqTWo7dG+KdwRsLfnKp98mni5nen2q4Bk6XKdhfyZ83EE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:1491:: with SMTP id j17mr7814880jak.92.1598822456316; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <23b151ff-e216-6a66-a3a5-9b8b5fe0bb82@digitalsignallabs.com> <6a6fa59c33b41435f6f907739d7d88cc1a153f33.camel@silogroup.org> <24cde6c4-20c8-a583-fdd0-508f8ebd4dd4@digitalsignallabs.com> <20200830201900.GA5707@cgf.cx> In-Reply-To: From: Chris Packham Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:20:45 +1200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Unsubscribe problems apparently solved To: Bryan Hundven Cc: crossgcc maillist , "Yann E. MORIN" , Alexey Neyman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: crossgcc@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: crossgcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:20:58 -0000 On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:38 AM Bryan Hundven wrot= e: > > Christopher, > > (Sorry if I got CC emails wrong... it's been a while...) > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 1:19 PM Christopher Faylor wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> The two people for whom the unsubscribe instructions "did not work" >> apparently managed to follow the instructions and unsubscribe. >> >> Sorry for the noise. You'd think that a technical mailing list wouldn't >> have these types of problems. >> >> Btw, the name of this mailing list is "crossgcc". I don't know why >> something is adding "crosstool-ng" to the subject but it's not being >> done by sourceware.org. >> >> cgf >> (20 year sourceware.org volunteer admin) >> >> -- >> For unsubscribe information see http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq > > > Personally, I do understand and appreciate your feedback. > > From my understanding this mailing list started as a place to chat about = cross-compling GCC, and I do not know how or when crosstool-ng started usin= g this mailing list as a way to use patchwork (http://jk.ozlabs.org/project= s/patchwork/) to commit changes to crosstool-ng (on an OSUOSL server using = mercurial). > > At a certain point (2011? 2012?), Yann E. Morin and I decided to move con= tributing to crosstool-ng to github (from a mercurial repo). I'm sure there= is a way to somehow add `[crosstool-ng]` as a prefix to the subject of Pul= l Requests and Merge notifications, I just don't know how. Maybe it is time= for us to stop notifying this mailing list of changes, and inform develope= rs to subscribe/like/follow the github repository. That way this mailing li= st can continue to be a mailing list about talking about cross-compling GCC= . > > As an admin, and co-contributor (well, not so much lately; as my work, my= daughter, and some things in my personal life have taken over), I would li= ke to know what we can do to make this mailing list what it should be. I do= n't know who owns this mailing list, maybe we also need their help in updat= ing the (un)subscribe page so that it is clear on how to (un)subscribe to t= his mailing list. > > I want to help aid in what is best, but I don't want to dictate what "sho= uld happen". Maybe others can provide some feedback? > For now I've removed the crosstool-ng notifications to crossgcc@sourceware.org since that seems to have been the cause of some frustration. If anyone wants notifications they'll need to subscribe to the project in github. I know that causes some issues for those who don't want to accept github's ToS but at the moment there seem to be more people frustrated by the notifications than those that actually want them and don't have github accounts.