From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8241 invoked by alias); 28 Mar 2017 19:50:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 7198 invoked by uid 89); 28 Mar 2017 19:50:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=fortunately, Hx-languages-length:1305, stick, H*M:9cb8 X-HELO: mail-pg0-f43.google.com Received: from mail-pg0-f43.google.com (HELO mail-pg0-f43.google.com) (74.125.83.43) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Mar 2017 19:50:36 +0000 Received: by mail-pg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id g2so81483853pge.3 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:50:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a7rAKz2Y+P8QQQ5eg8qErtVypU/BJaTonVIqYCW7BEI=; b=Aw/3+Y5lHtXi6p+aIP7cj1aAu53d/UxakxmTiMD+JjaqZEpe+rrYz4v5jC5wEPqIuQ 0lThvhWOTid6SAaKJfBm8xI6zjaNGvX658zsE/MfOoOE1TdtHV6SyeM+krdbhCSuVp0q /uN7s1Sh69YEgQNRKNnl+SofvqA1B34MaWGeSYvY254+MxL3WJy9KVpG4lG81yi8ssRq Kq1P8sL4y1hjscZA2txa0ufzCubzCyQ03NNkkOc9Rx/ix9A6Y7WqFw2o+h4+Efyndk9n hvO+ls0D3+x4zTueTZqoJ5eRA1CsIsvLI+8lxT4n8yKYch9hGVYc2q8y86Feom25GUPi rz4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H268ByPiExyfgUDv8BniZK5VJEV/BLD63kAobpiso3MxjSjHVqEvoBngPmgp2X6jQ== X-Received: by 10.98.155.149 with SMTP id e21mr33989661pfk.24.1490730636175; Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.253.68.49] ([65.197.242.18]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id b195sm8970160pfb.106.2017.03.28.12.50.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: how to manage 2 guile version To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <4e6e442a-1b34-00c6-4705-0dc1a2b62d26@gmail.com> <359f421b-559c-fc1d-ecea-dbcafd65f4df@gmail.com> <6d3c740a-b478-cf44-6ca2-e69980b859f9@cygwin.com> <46c991b5-ba66-4c9e-204b-ec17a7b76292@gmail.com> <20170328071146.GE1836@debbie.mshome.net> <491246ce-7dff-f1f1-5ffc-9545ec8e282f@cygwin.com> From: Marco Atzeri Message-ID: <03f9265a-9cb8-006b-3f3e-def8bd594663@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 19:50:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <491246ce-7dff-f1f1-5ffc-9545ec8e282f@cygwin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-03/txt/msg00046.txt.bz2 On 28/03/2017 18:01, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > On 2017-03-28 02:11, szgyg wrote: >> FWIW guile 2.2.0 was released two weeks ago [0]. Mostly works, but it >> still has failing tests [1]. > > Oh, great... > > So we probably should take this into consideration *now*, even though > most guile consumers aren't ready for the changes in 2.2 yet. > > Fortunately, it seems guile itself has taken their own instability into > account: > > https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Parallel-Installations.html > > > Although looking at packages which use guile, most haven't fully adapted > to this yet (guile-config is still used by some, and it doesn't seem > anyone is using pkg-config to find guile and guild), so we still need to > provide unversioned binaries/scripts in /usr/bin for now. > > It's way too early to make 2.2 "the" guile, so I think we stick with a > versioned guile1.8 for the stragglers, and 'guile' being 2.0 for now, > but eventually transitioning to a versioned 'guile2.0'. We'll have to > take another look at this once the real world has adapted to 2.2. > Considering some are still straggling on the 1.8 to 2.0 conversion, 2.2 is for far future. Do you think we need to maintain 1.8 around ? Debian seems to have drop it. regards Marco