From: Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com>
To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Setup
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:46:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020219044601.GA597@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <009701c1b8fc$a8eedba0$0200a8c0@lifelesswks>
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:19:43PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christopher Faylor" <cgf@redhat.com>
>To: <cygwin-apps@cygwin.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:05 PM
>Subject: Re: Setup
>
>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:27:26PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>>If the question is "Should 'upset' add a dummy Test entry for every
>>case where there is no such thing?" then the answer, IMO, is no. I
>>think the same applies for the case where an initial release of a
>>product is marked test. Setting up a dummy "Current" which is the same
>>as "Test" would defeat the purpose of "Test".
>
>For the first case, I think the answer is yes, for the second, it
>*should* be no (because, as you say, it would defeat the purpose of
>test).
>
>Otherwise we need a *new* mechanism to tell setup.exe when a package is
>replaced from current to test - that is that no test version exists, and
>that when moving to test, the current version should be removed.
Ok. We need a new mechanism. We also need a mechanism that says
"remove this package" and I don't think that the mechanism is to just
move the package to "prev". Maybe the mechanism is as simple as just
having a setup.hint like:
setup.hint:
curr uninstall "This package is now obsolete"
(wouldn't it be cool to have a "bubble" appear with the above words when
you moved the mouse cursor over the package name?)
Actually, in this case, where the package maintainer means to obviously
uninstall something, I think it is acceptable for setup.exe to do so.
>>I think that the bottom line is that setup.exe should NEVER default to
>>Uninstall. Uninstall should only be on when the user specifically
>>selects it. Anything else is, IMO, surprising and dangerous.
>
>I agree that the user should be warned before automated uninstalls
>happen. Thats not ever been the case though in the gui.
I've always considered it a bug when the word "Uninstall" shows up
in the GUI and I didn't specifically click on it.
>Setup doesn't *default* to uninstall. Two things have to happen: The
>user has to select Test (which means 'give me a testing distribution').
>Their has to be no valid testing version for that package.
If I click on Test, then a whole bunch of Installs show up on the
screen. If you don't like the word "default" then I'll use
"automatically switch".
I don't think that setup.exe should automatically switch to Uninstall
in any circumstances unless the package maintainer has specifically
indicated that is the correct behavior. Somehow.
When I click on test I assume it means "Give me all of the test versions".
I think it is acceptable that if there are no test versions, then every
other package shows up as "Skip". I don't think that we should assume
that the correct behavior is Uninstall.
Actually, this is one of the things that I hate about the current way
setup works. I don't like the Prev/Curr/Test stuff that much. It feels
like we're overloading functionality incorrectly but I don't have a real
idea about how to fix it.
cgf
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-19 4:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-18 6:12 Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 11:07 ` Patch Changelogs Michael A Chase
2002-02-24 3:06 ` Robert Collins
2002-02-18 13:06 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 17:26 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:05 ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-18 20:19 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:31 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 20:34 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:44 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 20:50 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-19 8:53 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-24 3:03 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:46 ` Christopher Faylor [this message]
2002-02-18 20:56 ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-20 22:45 ` Setup Gary R. Van Sickle
2002-02-20 23:00 ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-24 3:05 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-24 9:07 ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-18 20:18 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 20:30 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 18:48 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 19:50 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-22 5:38 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-22 14:46 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-22 19:15 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-22 23:04 ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-24 2:38 ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-27 10:20 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-20 23:10 Setup Robert Collins
2002-03-04 19:28 setup Robert Collins
2002-03-04 23:38 ` setup Michael A Chase
2002-03-05 8:31 ` setup Brian Keener
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2015-06-01 18:11 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-01 18:34 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-01 19:49 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-01 21:06 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-02 5:17 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-02 8:29 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-02 16:24 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-03 8:19 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-03 8:31 ` setup Marco Atzeri
2015-06-03 11:07 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-03 12:45 ` setup Eric Blake
2015-06-03 16:51 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-03 17:04 ` setup Yaakov Selkowitz
2015-06-03 17:11 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-08 12:56 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 13:49 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 18:34 ` setup Yaakov Selkowitz
2015-06-08 18:47 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 19:05 ` setup Yaakov Selkowitz
2015-06-08 19:35 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 18:52 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-06 20:58 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-07 20:21 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-08 13:28 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 18:07 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-08 19:31 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 20:54 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-09 9:56 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-09 16:54 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-10 8:05 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-10 17:47 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-10 18:54 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-10 20:50 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-11 10:06 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-11 10:11 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-11 18:10 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-11 21:03 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-12 10:29 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-12 17:05 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-12 17:37 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-24 20:00 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-25 8:59 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-25 16:40 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-25 20:16 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-26 8:34 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-26 18:07 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-26 19:03 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-28 13:40 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-29 13:41 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-30 4:59 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-30 16:40 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-30 17:14 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-30 18:42 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-01 20:37 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-02 9:10 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-02 21:03 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-03 10:14 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-11 21:31 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-13 9:44 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-14 19:57 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-28 19:19 setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-29 12:51 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-01 15:52 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 18:03 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 19:07 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 20:02 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 20:29 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-03 20:31 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 20:40 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-03 20:54 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 21:20 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-04 18:35 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-05 8:08 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-05 15:42 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-06 10:03 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-06 15:58 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-07 19:47 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-07 21:05 ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10 8:44 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-10 15:02 ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-11 7:48 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-11 19:53 ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-08 5:22 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 9:18 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-10 16:33 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 14:44 ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10 16:40 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 16:45 ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10 17:00 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 17:09 ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10 18:03 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 18:41 ` setup Warren Young
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