From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] Let's start a Cygwin 1.7 release area
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:37:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080403153726.GQ4468@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.63.0804031102260.29881@access1.cims.nyu.edu>
On Apr 3 11:16, Igor Peshansky wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > >>> Get own path ==> C:\\cygwin\\bin\\cygwin1.dll
> > > >>> Where's fstab? ==> C:\\cygwin\\etc\\fstab
> > > >>
> > > >> So, it implicitly computes where / is?
> > > >
> > > >No, it doesn't. It just snips away the last two path components and
> > > >tacks the etc/fstab string on. Plus the .$SID to get the user mounts.
> > > >
> > > >After the mount points have been read, root can potentially be
> > > >somewhere else entirely.
>
> So would it make sense to put the root mount info in the same directory as
> cygwin1.dll? I know it doesn't belong in /bin, but playing with relative
> paths is even more error-prone.
I don't understand this. As discussed somewhat later, if the root dir
follows automatically from where the DLL itself resides. Which, btw.,
the current code doesn't do right. I called GetModuleFileName(NULL)
which returns the path of the current application, not the path of the
Cygwin DLL. I'll fix that.
> > [snip]
> > > For 1.7, I think we ought to decouple /bin <> /usr/bin and /lib <>
> > > /usr/lib. The rationale for keeping those linked no longer applies in
> > > the modern setup.exe world.
> >
> > Full ACK! However, this needs a bit of careful revisiting of some of
> > the packages. For instance, assuming the Cygwin DLL will go to /bin,
> > cygrunsrv should also reside in /bin when we do this, not in /usr/bin,
> > obviously.
>
> Umm, i don't see how that follows. cygrunsrv can easily reside in
> /usr/bin, as long as (a) /bin is in the PATH when cygrunsrv is invoked
> from the shell, and (b) when cygrunsrv installs the services, it adds /bin
> to the PATH in the service environment.
Which is too late for cygrunsrv itself, right? The idea is to avoid
having to add the Cygwin bin dir to the system variable %PATH%. If you
want to accomplish that, cygrunsrv itself must be independent of it.
That's only the case if it shares the bin dir with the Cygwin DLL.
> > Right now I must admit that I prectically don't care if my packages
> > install the binaries in /bin or /usr/bin.
>
> /bin should contain programs that should work even if the PATH and mounts
> are screwed up. So, "kill", "shutdown", etc.
And cygrunsrv.
> > However, that's not really necessary anymore with /etc/fstab.
> > So I agree, we can simply get rid of fstab.$SID.
>
> Yes, that reasoning is mostly correct. However, some packages (like
> Cygwin/X) apparently assume a single-user installation, and create
> sockets/temp files in shared locations (i.e., /tmp). That, unfortunately,
That's a bug in Cygwin/X or in using it. If you have different DISPLAY
numbers for different displays, they shouldn't share the /tmp stuff,
just like on Linux et al.
Corinna
--
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Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-02 12:36 Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-02 17:46 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-02 23:01 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-03 9:42 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-03 13:56 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-03 14:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-03 15:16 ` Igor Peshansky
2008-04-03 15:37 ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2008-04-03 15:39 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-03 15:47 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-03 23:13 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-03 16:12 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-03 16:27 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-03 17:00 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-03 17:12 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-03 23:06 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-04 0:39 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-04 1:51 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-03 23:21 ` Warren Young
2008-04-04 0:41 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-03 22:52 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-04 12:22 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-05 10:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-05 6:17 ` Karl M
2008-04-04 0:50 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-04 12:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-08 16:27 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-08 17:27 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-08 17:40 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-08 18:42 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-08 21:07 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-08 21:18 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-08 21:46 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-08 21:54 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-08 23:27 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-09 8:27 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-09 11:34 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-09 12:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-09 12:28 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-09 14:32 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-09 16:28 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-11 15:13 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-12 0:35 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-12 11:36 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-12 12:23 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-12 12:43 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-12 15:15 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-12 17:43 ` Eric Blake
2008-04-12 23:00 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-13 9:43 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-13 19:35 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-14 9:56 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-14 14:36 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-15 3:00 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-15 8:55 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-15 9:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-15 9:24 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-15 9:31 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-15 9:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-15 14:17 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-15 15:44 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-15 16:16 ` Reini Urban
2008-04-15 17:59 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-15 18:39 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-15 18:52 ` Lapo Luchini
2008-04-16 9:39 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-16 16:25 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-20 15:45 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-20 18:47 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-20 21:56 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-20 22:11 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-20 22:44 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-20 22:55 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-20 23:08 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-20 22:40 ` Charles Wilson
2008-04-21 8:33 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-21 20:34 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-21 20:54 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-15 18:58 ` Eric Blake
2008-04-16 2:25 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-16 8:45 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-21 14:04 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-21 17:48 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-21 20:15 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-22 6:03 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-22 6:59 ` Jörg Schaible
2008-04-22 8:26 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-22 11:12 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-22 8:48 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-22 9:46 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-22 10:57 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-22 11:07 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-22 14:44 ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2008-04-22 14:56 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-22 15:26 ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2008-04-22 15:39 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-22 23:18 ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2008-04-23 9:27 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-23 20:09 ` Pēteris Kļaviņš
2008-04-22 15:38 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-14 23:24 ` Igor Peshansky
2008-04-15 3:08 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-15 8:59 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-12 12:24 ` Dr. Volker Zell
2008-04-12 12:32 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-13 3:43 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-13 9:03 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-13 19:47 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-13 4:44 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-13 9:05 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-14 2:34 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-08 21:39 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-08 21:53 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-11 16:27 ` Andrew Schulman
2008-04-11 16:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-24 22:41 ` Phil Nelson
2008-07-25 4:21 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-07-25 7:21 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-25 13:56 ` Phil Nelson
2008-07-25 14:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-06 14:35 klavins
2008-04-06 21:04 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-08 18:34 Charles Wilson
2008-04-08 18:43 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-04-08 21:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-09 15:04 Charles Wilson
2008-04-09 16:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-22 15:51 Charles Wilson
2008-04-22 16:01 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-25 11:22 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-04-22 16:08 ` Brian Dessent
2008-04-22 17:02 ` Charles Wilson
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