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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: base-[files|password] for 1.7
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:53:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080729145417.GD29031@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00da01c8f188$53ba3e60$880410ac@wirelessworld.airvananet.com>

On Jul 29 10:35, Pierre A. Humblet wrote:
> From: "Corinna Vinschen" 
> | I thought it's a good idea to have the domain by default.  It's a bit
> | strange that a machine is running in a domain but as soon as another
> | user logs in, the passwd and possibly group information for this user
> | is missing.
> 
> Well yes, I don't recall what the complaints were about.
> Perhaps long delays.
> But it caused problems to NEW cygwin users installing for the first
> time and without visibility or knowledge into what's happening.

That would have required a decision when to call mkpasswd -d in the
postinstall script.  I don't recall that we ever did that.

> |  I don't think it makes
> | sense to run mkgroup in a domain environment without fetching all
> | domain groups.
> 
> Agreed, but it's done under user control.

Just so that the group file doesn't get too big?

> | Not for -c, but in the default case it will take some time until it
> | times out and won't print the domain groups.  Since that's only an
> | actual issue at installation time, where's the problem?
> 
> Not sure what the old complaints were about...
> Do you expect the user and primary group to be put in passwd/group in that case?

I'm not sure I understand the question.  If we run mkpasswd/mkgroup
without arguments, you get local accounts on a non-domain machine
and domain accounts on a domain member machine.  Doesn't that make
the most sense?

> | > I also noticed that the new mkpasswd -c does not put a guess about the full user name
> | > in the comment field
> | > old -c:
> | > p-humblet:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:11068:11031:p-humblet,U-W...
> | > new -c
> | > p-humblet:unused:11068:11031: U-W...         <== no p-humblet
> | > {old,new} -d
> | > p-humblet:unused:11068:11031:Pierre Humblet,U-W...
> | 
> | Why do you need that?  
> 
> No idea why it was done like that in the first place :)
> Does it work for domain users in absence of a server?

No.  This information is only available from NetUserEnum/NetUserGetInfo
calls and those require DC access.


Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Project Co-Leader          cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Red Hat

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-29 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-17 15:53 New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2 Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-18  0:18 ` Eric Blake
2008-07-18  7:33   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-18  7:53     ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-18  8:08       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-18 12:07         ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-22 21:19           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-18 16:37 ` Marco Atzeri
2008-07-18 17:08   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-18 17:56     ` Christopher Faylor
2008-07-18 18:18       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-18 23:59         ` Brian Dessent
2008-07-19 10:15         ` Marco Atzeri
2008-07-18 19:29 ` Bill Hoffman
2008-07-19 12:24   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-19 14:16 ` Cygwin 1.7.0-19 (was Re: New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2) Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-22 17:42   ` Cygwin 1.7.0-20 (was Re: Cygwin 1.7.0-19 (was Re: New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2)) Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-25  8:10     ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-25 11:00       ` 1.7.0-21 broken Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-25 18:08         ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-28 14:52     ` base-[files|password] for 1.7 (was Re: Cygwin 1.7.0-20 (was Re: Cygwin 1.7.0-19 (was Re: New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2))) John Morrison
2008-07-28 15:27       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-28 16:34         ` base-[files|password] for 1.7 John Morrison
2008-07-29  9:32           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-29 11:50             ` Eric Blake
2008-07-28 18:56         ` Pierre A. Humblet
2008-07-29  9:45           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-29 14:35             ` Pierre A. Humblet
2008-07-29 14:53               ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2008-07-29 16:24                 ` Pierre A. Humblet
2008-07-29 22:22                   ` Pierre A. Humblet
2008-07-30  9:14                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-28 19:00         ` base-[files|password] for 1.7 (was Re: Cygwin 1.7.0-20 (was Re: Cygwin 1.7.0-19 (was Re: New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2))) Christopher Faylor
2008-07-29 11:37         ` Eric Blake
2008-07-29 11:56           ` John Morrison
2008-07-29 12:01             ` base-[files|password] for 1.7 Eric Blake
2008-07-29 12:28               ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-29 14:31                 ` Christopher Faylor
2008-07-29 14:56                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-29 16:18                     ` John Morrison
2008-07-29 18:00                       ` Christopher Faylor
2008-07-30  1:39                         ` Christopher Faylor
2008-07-30  9:22                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-30 15:20                             ` Christopher Faylor
2008-07-30 17:39                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-21 23:42 ` New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2 Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-07-22  9:32   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-23 17:26     ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-07-23 18:00       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-23 20:44         ` John Morrison
2008-07-24  9:08           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-24  9:18             ` John Morrison
2008-07-24  9:26               ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-25 10:07           ` Andrew Schulman
2008-07-24  3:45         ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-07-24  9:24           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-24 16:18             ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-07-24 17:46               ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-31  6:57 ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-07-31  7:39   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-31  8:28     ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-07-31 11:44       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-31 13:00         ` Charles Wilson
2008-07-31 13:23           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-31 13:31             ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-31 14:10               ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-31 20:16                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-31 15:06         ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-07-31 15:41           ` Corinna Vinschen

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