From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13179 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 2011 10:27:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12785 invoked by uid 22791); 28 Jul 2011 10:27:17 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from aquarius.hirmke.de (HELO calimero.vinschen.de) (217.91.18.234) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.83/v0.83-20-g38e4449) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:27:01 +0000 Received: by calimero.vinschen.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 4EB432C05AA; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:26:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:27:00 -0000 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: 256x256 px icons Message-ID: <20110728102658.GA10190@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <4E2E05DD.40101@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <4E2E0847.3060004@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <20110726110134.GU29727@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E2EB916.6000501@etr-usa.com> <20110727074143.GV29727@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E304B49.2070308@etr-usa.com> <4E307EEA.7040404@etr-usa.com> <20110728090844.GA6200@calimero.vinschen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110728090844.GA6200@calimero.vinschen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2011-07/txt/msg00155.txt.bz2 On Jul 28 11:08, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Hi Warren, Hi Andy, > > On Jul 28 06:50, Andy Koppe wrote: > > On 27 July 2011 22:11, Warren Young wrote: > > > http://etr-usa.com/cygwin/mintty-icon/no-text.ico > > > > That looks a lot better, thanks. Nice work removing the prompt. Did > > you go back to the original SVG to do that? > > > > > It also has the gray edges on the smaller icons instead of black, and > > > transparent corners in the 16x16. > > > > > > I had to remove the text, which makes the result not as clearly a terminal. > > > At 256 and arguably at 48 px, you can figure out that it might be a > > > terminal, especially if you've seen the icon in its previous incarnation. > > > At 32 px and below, I challenge anyone to honestly tell me that there is > > > any sense of "terminal" left in this version. > > > > Fair point. > > Indeed. There's also the problem that the Cygwin C is harder to > recognize on the dark grey background the smaller the icon gets. > Compared to the original mintty icon, the left and right sides of > the terminal frame gets harder to recognize, too, the smaller the > icon gets. I think that's a result of using more low-key shades > of grey. Alternatively I just need glasses. > > > > One could make an argument for going back to the plain old Konsole icon. > > > Maybe one icon cannot serve two masters. > > > > Just to be clear: I'd be happy with the modernized Cygwin icon too. I > > still prefer both that and the Konsole icon over the combined one > > (even ignoring the issue with the non-transparent border). > > > > Thanks again for putting in this effort to have something tangible to > > compare with. > > I fall in with the thanks. It looks like a terminal frame and the > Cygwin C are no good companions, icon-wise. > > It seems that black was a bad choice for the Cygwin C. I have a rather > dark background on my W7 32bit test machine. It doesn't matter if I > use the original icon or the fatbuttlarry icon, both are hard to see, > except for the green wedge. And the (much too) big shortcut overlays > don't help either. > > Hmm. Actually, the longer I see the 48x48 icon on my desctop, the more I like it. If the left and right terminal frames would be just one pixel thicker, and the terminal background a teeny little bit lighter, I think I could go with it. For the smaller sizes, maybe we should simply fall back to the plain old Cygwin C? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat