From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28315 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2011 04:55:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28302 invoked by uid 22791); 27 Oct 2011 04:55:17 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (HELO nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.214) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with SMTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 04:55:03 +0000 Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2011 04:55:02 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.124] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2011 04:55:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2011 04:55:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 44535 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2011 04:55:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: jenXL62swBAWhMTL3wnej93oaS0ClBQOAKs8jbEbx_o- Received: from cgf.cx (cgf@173.76.48.192 with login) by smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2011 21:55:02 -0700 PDT Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B8F13C0D3 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 04:55:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: ATTENTION: Tcl/Tk transition Message-ID: <20111027045501.GB3856@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <1319662955.7192.68.camel@YAAKOV04> <1319665558.90381.YahooMailNeo@web114712.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1319666028.11531.YahooMailNeo@web114720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20111026222153.GA6482@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <1319669958.14253.YahooMailNeo@web114704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20111026233450.GB6482@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <1319678794.81642.YahooMailNeo@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1319678794.81642.YahooMailNeo@web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2011-10/txt/msg00096.txt.bz2 On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 06:26:34PM -0700, Cary R. wrote: >FYI expect is what drew me to Tcl/Tk a very long time ago. > >Trust that I understand the need to be using a more modern version of >Tcl/Tk. I'm just whining that we're going to loose the GDI support. >Since I'm not going to do anything to help the situation thisis the >last I'll post on the subject. > >I did some quick testing and yes the new X server is much better. All >my prejudices came from Cygwin 1.5 days on a slower laptop. The >combination of a newer laptop and Cygwin 1.7/newer X server makes a >significant difference. > >The benefit I get from using VirtualBox for development? is that with >Cygwinour test suite takes 818 second andwith Linuxinside VirtualBox it >takes 45 seconds. As you can see itdoesn'ttake too many test cycles to >result in a significanttimesavings and yes this is the same version of >the codeon the same machine with all the other processes idle. For me >the resource cost of Virtual Box is 1G of memory and a 30-45 second >startup/shutdown times. Depending on what I'm doing and how long I'm >going to be doing it this is acceptable given the smaller testing >times. > >Don't construe any of this as a slam on Cygwin. I still think it is a >great setup! I don't construe it as a slam. I construe it as continuing down the "off-topic for this mailing list" road. You've hijacked what should be a rebuild and packaging discussion with YA astonished observation that "Cygwin is slow". Moreover, as far as I can tell you are not even a package maintainer. If you have more to say then use the Cygwin mailing list. cgf