From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8771 invoked by alias); 21 Sep 2012 02:04:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 8481 invoked by uid 22791); 21 Sep 2012 02:04:34 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE,RCVD_IN_NIX_SPAM X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org (HELO mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) (204.13.248.66) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 02:04:20 +0000 Received: from pool-108-49-156-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([108.49.156.82] helo=cgf.cx) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TEsbL-000MkR-9q for cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 02:04:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A4242800E for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:04:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19eyl+Z+XIyJo/DMzUth7Pf Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 02:04:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Possible changes to setup.exe interface and name Message-ID: <20120921020418.GB26890@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <505B3D32.8020808@redhat.com> <20120920173950.GC24336@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2012-09/txt/msg00160.txt.bz2 On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 01:21:23AM +0200, Michael Benford wrote: >On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:39:50 +0200, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 06:26:01PM +0200, Michael Benford wrote: >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:58:42 +0200, Eric Blake wrote: >>>> On 09/20/2012 09:11 AM, Michael Benford wrote: >>>>> I would like to change the setup.exe so that it loads the package >>>>> selection page when it starts. And only runs the wizard when a >>>>> current >>>>> installation of the current version is not detected. >>>> >>>> Indeed - having the ability to skip past the 6 'Next' buttons for a >>>> repeated run after cygwin is already installed seems useful; but you >>>> still have to make it possible for the user to rerun the intro screens >>>> rather than hard-coding it to only start at the package selection page >>>> (since the intro screens are necessary for things like choosing a >>>> different mirror). Probably the easiest approach is to add a new >>>> command line option that can be used to skip the intro screens, and >>>> then users can script things with a batch file or by modifying the >>>> Windows shortcut to the actual setup.exe binary to add the option, >>>> although that will still require some user intervention rather than >>>> happening automatically. >>>> >>> I would implement a configuration panel that is accessible from the >>> package selection page.(i have developed a button table mini >>> application for launching other application with hard coded >>> command-line arguments using only win32) >> >> I'd rather just start with a command-line option than adding a whole new >> screen to setup.exe. > >I'm basically offering to turn setup.exe into a package manager. setup.exe >would need to auto detect the current state of installation and should >have a command line argument to force a new install. I don't know what "force a new install" means but setup.exe is already a package manager. People aren't clamoring for more screens. They are really clamoring for a more command-line-driven capability. >>Sorry. This isn't a democracy. We're not changing the name. This has >>come up before. I'm sure you can find past discussions on this issue >>if you search. > >I will search the mailing lists. If you could also send me a specific >email, mailing list and/or date to look at it would be appreciated. I don't keep this type of information at the tip of my fingers. Sorry. cgf