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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: setup
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:18:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150810091820.GB13029@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874mkawe0c.fsf@Rainer.invalid>

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On Aug  8 07:22, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Corinna Vinschen writes:
> >> I would consider this a release candidate.  Some more testing with
> >> interactive and ad-hoc installs would be useful, though.
> >
> > How do you want to handle this?  We don't have real provisions for
> > setup.exe release candidates.
> 
> True.  At the moment it'd probably mean that some other folks on this
> list try it and give their GTG.  They'd either have to build it
> themselves or maybe use the AppVeyor build from Jon Turney.

Link?  I'm using setup with the -m option exclusively so I'm mostly
interested that this still works.  However, you might want to make a
quick list what scenarios you want to have tested as well.  I try to
do that over the next couple of days and hopfully other maintainers
try, too.

> > Maybe we should change how we provide setup updates in future?
> >
> > I have a vague idea that setup should ideally be part of the Cygwin
> > distro package set.  So setup updates itself, and it would be possible
> > to handle public "test" releases.
> 
> We could add a new key to setup.ini that indicates the existence of a
> test version and have setup ask if the user would maybe want to use that
> instead.  Ideally setup would then download and exec it if the user
> choses to run it.

IIUC, you mean that the current method of downloading setup only from
sware should be maintained?  What kind of "key" are you talking about?

> I don't have code ready to do that, though…  Another
> problem that needs to be solved is to know how much exposure the new
> setup.exe really had to decide if it's good for release.

That's a general problem.  I'm not sure how much exposure the Cygwin
test DLLs really have, either.  I'm reasonable sure that some of you
maintainers are using them, but otherwise it's a bit of a black hole.

> > The issue of overwriting setup while setup is running could be worked
> > around by setup first copying itself to a intermediate filename (e.g.
> > .setup.exe) and then exce'ing that copy.
> >
> > Other ideas how we could handle this?
> 
> As said before, the idea that setup.exe needs to be entirely
> self-contained is both an advantage and limiting what it can do.  I
> haven't had time yet to check, but a minimal Cygwin install system w/
> busybox might not be too large compared to the connectivity demands of
> todays' Windows itself.  Here setup.exe would just need to unpack the
> current image of the install system and provide the GUI to pick the
> packages and control the actual installation.

Not sure I follow.  How would such an install system look like?
I have a vague notion that busybox could run the scripts, but there
are installation path issues and requirements of some postinstall
scripts which might not be suffiecently handled by busybox.


Corinna

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-10  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-28 19:19 setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-29 12:51 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-01 15:52   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 18:03     ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 19:07       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 20:02         ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 20:29           ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-03 20:31             ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 20:40               ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-03 20:54                 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-03 21:20             ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-04 18:35               ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-05  8:08                 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-05 15:42                   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-06 10:03                     ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-06 15:58                       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-07 19:47                         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-07 21:05                           ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10  8:44                             ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-10 15:02                               ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-11  7:48                                 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-08-11 19:53                                   ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-08  5:22                           ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10  9:18                             ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2015-08-10 16:33                               ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 14:44                             ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10 16:40                               ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 16:45                                 ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10 17:00                                   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 17:09                                     ` setup Warren Young
2015-08-10 18:03                                       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-08-10 18:41                                         ` setup Warren Young
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-05-29 19:37 setup Achim Gratz
2015-05-31 10:24 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-01 18:11   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-01 18:34     ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-01 19:49       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-01 21:06         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-02  5:17           ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-02  8:29             ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-02 16:24               ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-03  8:19                 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-03  8:31                   ` setup Marco Atzeri
2015-06-03 11:07                     ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-03 12:45                       ` setup Eric Blake
2015-06-03 16:51                   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-03 17:04                   ` setup Yaakov Selkowitz
2015-06-03 17:11                     ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-08 12:56                       ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 13:49                         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 18:34                           ` setup Yaakov Selkowitz
2015-06-08 18:47                             ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 19:05                               ` setup Yaakov Selkowitz
2015-06-08 19:35                                 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 18:52                         ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-06 20:58 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-07 20:21   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-08 13:28     ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 18:07       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-08 19:31         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-08 20:54           ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-09  9:56             ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-09 16:54               ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-10  8:05                 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-10 17:47                   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-10 18:54                     ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-10 20:50                       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-11 10:06                         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-11 10:11                           ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-11 18:10                           ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-11 21:03                         ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-12 10:29                           ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-12 17:05                             ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-12 17:37                               ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-24 20:00                                 ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-25  8:59                                   ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-25 16:40                                     ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-25 20:16                                       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-26  8:34                                         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-26 18:07                                           ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-26 19:03                                             ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-28 13:40                               ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-29 13:41                                 ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-30  4:59                                   ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-30 16:40                                     ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-06-30 17:14                                       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-06-30 18:42                                         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-01 20:37                                       ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-02  9:10                                         ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-02 21:03                                           ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-03 10:14                                             ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-11 21:31                                           ` setup Achim Gratz
2015-07-13  9:44                                             ` setup Corinna Vinschen
2015-07-14 19:57                                               ` setup Achim Gratz
2002-03-04 19:28 setup Robert Collins
2002-03-04 23:38 ` setup Michael A Chase
2002-03-05  8:31 ` setup Brian Keener
2002-02-20 23:10 Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18  6:12 Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 13:06 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 17:26   ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:05     ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-18 20:19       ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:31         ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 20:34           ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:44             ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 20:50               ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-19  8:53                 ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-24  3:03                   ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 20:46         ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-18 20:56           ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-20 22:45           ` Setup Gary R. Van Sickle
2002-02-20 23:00             ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-24  3:05           ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-24  9:07             ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-18 20:18     ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-18 20:30       ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 18:48   ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-18 19:50     ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-22  5:38       ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-22 14:46         ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-22 19:15           ` Setup Brian Keener
2002-02-22 23:04             ` Setup Christopher Faylor
2002-02-24  2:38             ` Setup Robert Collins
2002-02-27 10:20               ` Setup Brian Keener

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