From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 99208 invoked by alias); 4 Aug 2016 11:40:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 99192 invoked by uid 89); 4 Aug 2016 11:40:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-95.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,GOOD_FROM_CORINNA_CYGWIN,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT,RCVD_IN_PBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy= X-HELO: calimero.vinschen.de Received: from ipbcc0190b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (HELO calimero.vinschen.de) (188.192.25.11) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:40:51 +0000 Received: by calimero.vinschen.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id AECA3A80D6E; Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:40:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2016 11:40:00 -0000 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: [PATCH setup 00/10] Various setup patches Message-ID: <20160804114049.GF25811@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <20160802153037.125216-1-jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk> <87oa5az5t0.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <20160803083502.GB7388@calimero.vinschen.de> <87k2fyyyby.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <20160803173949.GB25811@calimero.vinschen.de> <87ziotso5w.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <20160803184315.GE25811@calimero.vinschen.de> <87vazhsk8w.fsf@Rainer.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QDd5rp1wjxlDmy9q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vazhsk8w.fsf@Rainer.invalid> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.2 (2016-07-01) X-SW-Source: 2016-08/txt/msg00034.txt.bz2 --QDd5rp1wjxlDmy9q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 1649 On Aug 3 21:52, Achim Gratz wrote: > Corinna Vinschen writes: > >> People tend to not re-install their whole set of packages just because > >> some new version of setup is announced, > > > > Uhm? If you download a new setup, but then don't update your packages, > > why did you download the latest setup at all? If you don't run this > > new setup, you won't get new-style files. >=20 > The checksum information has to come from somewhere and that somewhere > requires a package install or update. Together with that new setup we mi= ght > have an update of cygccheck and some unrelated packages that happen to > have been rebuilt recently, but certainly not the whole distribution. Why is that important? The checksums will collect over time. > >> so I'm going to assume that for > >> quite some time a mix of old and new .lst files (for instance) exists = on > >> the majority of installations and whatever we do (in cygcheck, say) > >> needs to work with that. > > > > 1. Provide new versions of cygwin, cygcheck-dep and _autorebase > > 2. time passes (2 weeks or so) > > 3. Provide a new version of setup >=20 > That doesn't cut it, unless you want to require the whole distribution > to be rebuilt and everything re-installed with that change. Cygwin10 > 1609 or something like that? :-) I don't think I understand what you're up to. Why is it important to add the extra information all at once? And if that's the case, couldn't we use a runonce postinstall script for that? Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat --QDd5rp1wjxlDmy9q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-length: 819 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXoynBAAoJEPU2Bp2uRE+g5m0P/1GMcjpfd+ec7z+iHI+wYWcT fwoJPQp+2DbybMq8O41jw+Hgzz9uR8+frYkSIoreb4Z2KuT2P9Jl9GeYHIb3Qjv+ 7S7HKDp3PoV0fLecjb6FVsp5m3EjLVmr0VhqucIvSnS3GelmZhWETqtgB2FFafZY Jtx3BnYq/r4V+7qH4edzi85JZ1cMJsp+t68q2/VdS0P4AxrbgUbpmr90SvtGgdFL NuRjSd/l+B2H31zdVuobcbwAdO1r3NZ/ABYVibpwIG78CAy7EbuBoOOdWv/Vz0ef rsydwZRvcOUAHpsDunMKYoTGBO/equb9KqUFCvwgLslJ1Ekm+TlvMhNTaLoGRSY7 89Ex/aTcFGXZEs0OI1n/SHyYQNvmkwTZgLRhZ5lA5BETFIMBsAFqxe9eIDticaxG O3SfcTy8EqepOaGIfWoS63fF8+7O4hZYxQSm7WZ1j3WCO5PUkZ+vMVvrwnn2vIg4 AuPj49FyNzx7T/rXXQSzxpiAqLB0yWH4Bi6i1JIAoNu9opfDLLN66bz/1TUE306t jpW7xsbCxT4jwe+trBlOtgc26/JmwFWH8jdAq29ifG2tenul7FEf2EG/Xs7Zg8tf BxdCdHFCb4KzJrfCtpxX21b/oB7Cu5KgRlv7NEldLkI65Ej7eH2keYN/RXVgGQYr h6Cvsr3oLKuEVKyVR+yg =5eMH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QDd5rp1wjxlDmy9q--