From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18734 invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2017 20:10:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 18490 invoked by uid 89); 10 Mar 2017 20:10:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-101.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,GOOD_FROM_CORINNA_CYGWIN,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=Providing, Packaging, administrator, UD:htm X-HELO: drew.franken.de Received: from mail-n.franken.de (HELO drew.franken.de) (193.175.24.27) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:10:27 +0000 Received: from aqua.hirmke.de (aquarius.franken.de [193.175.24.89]) (Authenticated sender: aquarius) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C9CD721E281A for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:10:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from calimero.vinschen.de (calimero.vinschen.de [192.168.129.6]) by aqua.hirmke.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891495E019B for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:10:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by calimero.vinschen.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 726F6A805A4; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:10:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:10:00 -0000 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Providing/Packaging a Postinstalled SUSV4 Doc only Package a la Debian Message-ID: <20170310201023.GA21500@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <91db6139-2463-da44-f9ec-0f0413b3367d@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <91db6139-2463-da44-f9ec-0f0413b3367d@tiscali.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-SW-Source: 2017-03/txt/msg00002.txt.bz2 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 1996 On Mar 10 15:43, David Stacey wrote: > On 06/03/17 20:42, Brian Inglis wrote: > > Debian provides a SUSV4 package which downloads the tar.bz2 and installs > > the HTML tree from: > >=20 > > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/download/ > >=20 > > in the postinstall script, as they believe that complies with the terms > > permitting individual download stated and linked at: > >=20 > > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/terms.htm > >=20 > > http://www.opengroup.org/legal > >=20 > > Is there any interest in such a package in Cygwin, and is this approach > > acceptable? >=20 > Given that no-one else has replied: Sorry for not replying earlier. Yaakov asked our legel dept for advice and the result is this: It's ok if the package downloads the tar file and unpacks it in a post-install script, provided that the user gets an opportunity to see http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/terms.htm prior to the installation. For that to accomplish it's sufficient if the user gets pointed to that document at install time. You can do this with an install message. In cygport, add something like MESSAGE=3D"The content generated by this package is provided under the te= rms as outlined by http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/terms.htm" That will do it. > Otherwise, I am nervous about setting a precedent for a package that could > give different contents each time it is installed (yes, Microsoft, I'm > looking at you too). And there are plenty of corner cases where this > wouldn't work: offline installs, web proxies, or if the account performing > the Cygwin install (e.g. Administrator) was blocked from accessing the web > (on security grounds). This is another interesting point of course. Does wget or curl allow to specify a (short) timeout before giving up and just not installing anything, perhaps? Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-length: 819 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYwwgvAAoJEPU2Bp2uRE+g1MkQAIDhUDvPxHYnLE9IYnEGlC9L M6lEIpolCF8k8WJrlpB7O8U8iF6moElxbpmkwuN9+rh+IE2NnSWl3gFmkZysCwyr NOXmyaA40e8bCDRPeYt6Pf0+a0PgZVVw0vSkoL8NIViRzx6v2UEajYzE057woKZb WHFCV9F8kA5aVt95zzLbMW8adUI1ZTVpIEhZnNqHzeP3AIYjQB162AWHWpCpXS7H GMCNv6mA9/2j5kRm3LjdQy95ANENMiXvWr9TSdU1qHxQ8GacxmqdIgefiUr8H4k+ T7fuOfVyh/+qIp9lgUi1Hsz6dH5EtZyEFYcjOz4E9gT7BSGqUdKmido48D4zxCLb YBorvW7DiEU9X27VsE3eStT7mTswD6p5vilZh3pTeQRmPCNcoe98TLG3zWxumheb UkbnI/LcgLnoJuY8evAOOEEctYbJw8w1+IZErVzmf3S5d+0fuWxxxF2Xl+HiJQrA MwCXPprWezQ4T19bRUPiePN5xPGSYZxEe55r8+U3ZJr9qiT/88c+IgkAS1DB7HEo smkeGu+ylJssS58SQpB8ORTmTNnZtJzakTfjNE3vieTchJwQ+WcVo7Ed14ZwOQzO e3TRyrWPfKZtLfQuzxywoP+c+cWer4cjugRQ6N1Z3XNpO3XicZEi1qxH6S8DGK/z SJ9VH3LFUs9/aD8flVDj =hqiG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR--