From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sa-prd-fep-047.btinternet.com (mailomta26-sa.btinternet.com [213.120.69.32]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E27A73858C33 for ; Tue, 9 May 2023 20:15:37 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org E27A73858C33 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=dronecode.org.uk Received: from sa-prd-rgout-001.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net ([10.2.38.4]) by sa-prd-fep-047.btinternet.com with ESMTP id <20230509201536.SAZV13453.sa-prd-fep-047.btinternet.com@sa-prd-rgout-001.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net>; Tue, 9 May 2023 21:15:36 +0100 Authentication-Results: btinternet.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=jonturney@btinternet.com; bimi=skipped X-SNCR-Rigid: 64067D310794AAB9 X-Originating-IP: [86.140.69.123] X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.140.69.123 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: jonturney@btinternet.com X-VadeSecure-score: verdict=clean score=0/300, class=clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrfeeguddgjedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuueftkffvkffujffvgffngfevqffopdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeflohhnucfvuhhrnhgvhicuoehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvtdetffekveevjeegheeglefhtdeggfeilefggfdutedufedvgefgieeiffdtveenucfkphepkeeirddugedtrdeiledruddvfeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegludelvddrudeikedruddruddtiegnpdhinhgvthepkeeirddugedtrdeiledruddvfedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhrtghpthhtoheptgihghifihhnqdgrphhpshestgihghifihhnrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepkhgsrhhofihnsegtohhrnhgvlhhlrdgvughupdhrvghvkffrpehhohhsthekiedqudegtddqieelqdduvdefrdhrrghnghgvkeeiqddugedtrdgsthgtvghnthhrrghlphhluhhsrdgtohhmpdgruhhthhgpuhhsvghrpehjohhnthhurhhnvgihsegsthhinhhtvghrnhgvthdrtghomhdp ghgvohfkrfepifeupdfovfetjfhoshhtpehsrgdqphhrugdqrhhgohhuthdqtddtud X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean Received: from [192.168.1.106] (86.140.69.123) by sa-prd-rgout-001.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net (5.8.814) (authenticated as jonturney@btinternet.com) id 64067D310794AAB9; Tue, 9 May 2023 21:15:36 +0100 Message-ID: <230a85ba-4a64-9b8f-b0d2-e19588a887e9@dronecode.org.uk> Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 21:15:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.1 Subject: Re: [Attn. MAINTAINERS] Heads up: Perl 5.36.1 is imminent To: Ken Brown , "cygwin-apps@cygwin.com" References: <875y9byg8p.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <871qjy4g4b.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <31082bc1-bf6b-dda1-e8f7-c4ace2a6fc29@cornell.edu> <63e796dc-f2c2-afdb-c6ed-386313a39b22@cornell.edu> <165bdd07-a4dd-0d63-2750-8ee3ea2ce886@dronecode.org.uk> <94093430-c37c-cca3-2c51-b6e679d03cf8@cornell.edu> Content-Language: en-GB From: Jon Turney In-Reply-To: <94093430-c37c-cca3-2c51-b6e679d03cf8@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 06/05/2023 19:31, Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps wrote: > On 5/6/2023 9:34 AM, Jon Turney wrote: >> (There's definitely a problematic dependency chain cygport -> automake >> -> automake1.* -> texinfo -> versioned perl which we need to be aware >> of in future when rebuilding texinfo for updated perl) > > In addition to the dependencies above, there's actually a direct > dependency cygport -> texinfo. Doh, right! > I was aware of this when rebuilding texinfo, after an initial failed > attempt using SCALLYWAG.  The way I dealt with it was to forcibly update > perl, ignoring setup's warnings.  I don't know if there's a better way > to handle this in the future.  Maybe temporarily (or permanently?) > remove those dependencies on texinfo? I think perhaps that maybe making those dependencies of cygport 'suggests'/'recommended' (if we implemented that) rather than 'depends', as that would let the solver consider solutions without those packages installed. I think would be ok, as texinfo doesn't actually require itself to build? (There are perhaps a few packages which do have a real self-build-dep, but those are probably harder to build anyhow, and it should be explicitly recorded in build-requires?)