From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24453 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2008 20:44:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 24437 invoked by uid 22791); 23 Jul 2008 20:44:31 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (HELO mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) (81.103.221.49) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:44:10 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080723205041.VUTC16629.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:50:41 +0100 Received: from gateway.morrison.mine.nu ([82.21.193.42]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080723204746.UCZS29365.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@gateway.morrison.mine.nu> for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:47:46 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.morrison.mine.nu ident=www-data) by gateway.morrison.mine.nu with esmtp (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian)) id 1KLlBs-0004qz-UN for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:44:04 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user john) by mail.morrison.mine.nu with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:44:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <394fb80db854e1eefd91bf014c162a24.squirrel@mail.morrison.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <20080723180000.GA5251@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20080717155516.GC5675@calimero.vinschen.de> <48851EE2.9030202@users.sourceforge.net> <20080722093225.GA15895@calimero.vinschen.de> <48876999.3050208@users.sourceforge.net> <20080723180000.GA5251@calimero.vinschen.de> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:44:00 -0000 Subject: Re: New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2 From: "John Morrison" To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2008-07/txt/msg00112.txt.bz2 On Wed, July 23, 2008 7:00 pm, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jul 23 12:25, Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) wrote: >> Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> | When 1.7 goes gold, the idea is to install over an 1.5 install. Or >> not. >> | It's the choice of the user. >> >> The advantage of "starting fresh" with 1.7 would allow us to dump a lot >> of obsolete packages from the distro [...] >> but IMHO everything should anyways be rebuilt for 1.7. > > I'd be happy if even the most important packages have been rebuilt for > 1.7. So far the reactions from the package maintainers were somewhat > reticent. I think that'll probably alter once there's a setup for 1.7. Speaking personally I *need* my installation of cygwin and couldn't stand to be without it. (I will get 'round to patching the base packages, but I was/did hand these over to Igor; is he still around?) X under 1.7 is a requirement for me. Just wish I had the skills to get the latest version working. >> OTOH I'm not sure what the user reaction would be. I suppose one >> compromise would be to require users to "rm -fr /etc/setup" before >> upgrading to 1.7. Once X works, that works for me :) > I'm still rather trying to smooth out the upgrade path so that there > are as little as possible manual changes left to the user. It will > be bumpy nevertheless... > >> | There's no roadmap. What's missing for a release is >> | >> | - A new setup.exe >> | >> | - The Cygwin utils are not quite up to speed >> | >> | - Documentation changes >> | >> | - Support by the package maintainers >> | >> | - Testing >> | >> | All of the above items could need a helping hand. If 1.7 isn't too >> | buggy, I plan to release 1.7 still in 2008. When that actually >> happens >> | doesn't depend on me. Cygwin 1.7 development has gone on for two >> years >> | and it comes with a lot of changes. Not all of them allow a 100% >> smooth >> | transition. >> | Eventually this release depends on the support it gets from all of >> you. >> >> I for one would like to "catch up" the distro to what I've made >> available in Ports. > > Cool. Definately. >> Could someone point me again to the current directions to install 1.7 in >> parallel to 1.5 on the same machine? > > The problem so far is the "Cygnus Solutions" registry key and the > default name of the cygwin dir, C:\cygwin. When you try to install > 1.7, both shouldn't exist. So what I did is this: > > - Rename C:\cygwin to C:\cygwin-1.5. Change this everywhere in the > registry. > > - My HKCU "Cygnus Solutions" mount table is empty anyway, so it doesn't > matter. Rename HKLM "Cygnus Solutions" to "Cygnus Solutions 1.5". > > - Install Cygwin 1.7 with setup-1.7.exe into C:\cygwin. > > - Rename HKLM "Cygnus Solutions" to "Cygnus Solutions 1.7" > > - Rename HKLM "Cygnus Solutions 1.5" back to "Cygnus Solutions". > > Since 1.7 doesn't use the above registry key, it doesn't matter for > running 1.7. Just when calling setup-1.7 for an update, the registry > key rename orgy starts again. > > We *really* need a new setup for 1.7 which doesn't access the "Cygnus > Solutions" registry key anymore. Agreed :( J. (attempting to find some time!)