Scallywag TeX dblatex font requirements dependencies missing

Scallywag TeX dblatex font requirements dependencies missing

[Brian Inglis]

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Scallywag job failing complaining about TeX fonts.
Any ideas about what extra TeX font dependencies dblatex requires under 
gtk-doc building docs for gsasl 2.2 under playground:

https://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/jobs.cgi?id=4618

https://github.com/cygwin/scallywag/actions/runs/3148865611/jobs/5119913953

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Re: Scallywag TeX dblatex font requirements dependencies missing

[Jon Turney]

On 29/09/2022 07:22, Brian Inglis wrote:
> Hi folks, [Please Reply All as Cygwin mail blocked by ISP]
> 
> Scallywag job failing complaining about TeX fonts.
> Any ideas about what extra TeX font dependencies dblatex requires under 
> gtk-doc building docs for gsasl 2.2 under playground:
> 
> https://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/jobs.cgi?id=4618
> 
> https://github.com/cygwin/scallywag/actions/runs/3148865611/jobs/5119913953

Googling the first error message leads me to suggest 
texlive-collection-fontsrecommended

Re: Scallywag TeX dblatex font requirements dependencies missing

[Brian Inglis]

On 2022-09-30 07:01, Jon Turney wrote:
> On 29/09/2022 07:22, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> Hi folks, [Please Reply All as Cygwin mail blocked by ISP]
>>
>> Scallywag job failing complaining about TeX fonts.
>> Any ideas about what extra TeX font dependencies dblatex requires 
>> under gtk-doc building docs for gsasl 2.2 under playground:
>>
>> https://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/jobs.cgi?id=4618
>>
>> https://github.com/cygwin/scallywag/actions/runs/3148865611/jobs/5119913953 
>>

> Googling the first error message leads me to suggest 
> texlive-collection-fontsrecommended

Thanks Jon,

I planned to add that and ...extra, but shouldn't presumably required 
fonts be TeX/LaTex/dblatex package dependencies, when not mentioned 
anywhere in downstream packages, including in build scripts on other 
systems?

How are maintainers and users expected to make the connection, if nobody 
mentions you need special "unrelated" font packages, in any of the 
downstream packages?

For example, for DbLaTeX, only the Windows install page mentions MikTeX 
fonts, and there appears to be no other link between the abstract font 
specs, the TeX fonts used, and packages required, although there appear 
to be mentions of DejaVu "system" fonts, so do non-TeX font packages 
also need installed e.g. dejavu-fonts or urw-base35-fonts{,-legacy}?

Those who are not TeXies need a few more hints.

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Re: Scallywag TeX dblatex font requirements dependencies missing

[Jon Turney]

On 30/09/2022 19:25, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2022-09-30 07:01, Jon Turney wrote:
>> On 29/09/2022 07:22, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>> Hi folks, [Please Reply All as Cygwin mail blocked by ISP]
>>>
>>> Scallywag job failing complaining about TeX fonts.
>>> Any ideas about what extra TeX font dependencies dblatex requires 
>>> under gtk-doc building docs for gsasl 2.2 under playground:
>>>
>>> https://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/jobs.cgi?id=4618
>>>
>>> https://github.com/cygwin/scallywag/actions/runs/3148865611/jobs/5119913953
> 
>> Googling the first error message leads me to suggest 
>> texlive-collection-fontsrecommended
> 
> Thanks Jon,
> 
> I planned to add that and ...extra, but shouldn't presumably required 
> fonts be TeX/LaTex/dblatex package dependencies, when not mentioned 
> anywhere in downstream packages, including in build scripts on other 
> systems?
> 
> How are maintainers and users expected to make the connection, if nobody 
> mentions you need special "unrelated" font packages, in any of the 
> downstream packages?
> 
> For example, for DbLaTeX, only the Windows install page mentions MikTeX 
> fonts, and there appears to be no other link between the abstract font 
> specs, the TeX fonts used, and packages required, although there appear 
> to be mentions of DejaVu "system" fonts, so do non-TeX font packages 
> also need installed e.g. dejavu-fonts or urw-base35-fonts{,-legacy}?
> 
> Those who are not TeXies need a few more hints.

I don't know.

Maybe Ken has some insight?

Re: Scallywag TeX dblatex font requirements dependencies missing

[Ken Brown]

On 10/8/2022 9:04 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
> On 30/09/2022 19:25, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> On 2022-09-30 07:01, Jon Turney wrote:
>>> On 29/09/2022 07:22, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>>> Hi folks, [Please Reply All as Cygwin mail blocked by ISP]
>>>>
>>>> Scallywag job failing complaining about TeX fonts.
>>>> Any ideas about what extra TeX font dependencies dblatex requires under 
>>>> gtk-doc building docs for gsasl 2.2 under playground:
>>>>
>>>> https://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/jobs.cgi?id=4618
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/cygwin/scallywag/actions/runs/3148865611/jobs/5119913953
>>
>>> Googling the first error message leads me to suggest 
>>> texlive-collection-fontsrecommended
>>
>> Thanks Jon,
>>
>> I planned to add that and ...extra, but shouldn't presumably required fonts be 
>> TeX/LaTex/dblatex package dependencies, when not mentioned anywhere in 
>> downstream packages, including in build scripts on other systems?

I don't think so.  TeX/LaTeX/dblatex can't know what fonts are going to be 
required to build documentation for other packages.

>> How are maintainers and users expected to make the connection, if nobody 
>> mentions you need special "unrelated" font packages, in any of the downstream 
>> packages?
>>
>> For example, for DbLaTeX, only the Windows install page mentions MikTeX fonts, 
>> and there appears to be no other link between the abstract font specs, the TeX 
>> fonts used, and packages required, although there appear to be mentions of 
>> DejaVu "system" fonts, so do non-TeX font packages also need installed e.g. 
>> dejavu-fonts or urw-base35-fonts{,-legacy}?
>>
>> Those who are not TeXies need a few more hints.

gsasl should tell you what fonts are required to build its documentation.  Since 
it apparently doesn't (I haven't checked), you have to go by the error messages. 
  The first error message I see in the log is

! I can't find file `pzdr'

followed shortly by

...failed to make pzdr.tfm.

Searching Cygwin packages for 'pzdr', you find that pzdr.tfm is in 
texlive-collection-fontsrecommended.  So you add the latter to BUILD_REQUIRES 
and try again.  If there are still error messages about missing fonts, repeat 
the process.

I don't know any other way to do it.

Ken