* [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 @ 2008-05-23 17:24 David Rothenberger 2008-06-06 7:57 ` Dr. Volker Zell ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-05-23 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygapps I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've packaged the latest release (1.4.6). I used the Subversion client daily, but not any of the bindings or the Apache2 module. I've run the included test suite and everything passes except the Ruby bindings. It looks like this might be a problem with the tests and not the bindings, but I'm not sure. I'd appreciate at least one GTG on this, since the packaging is complicated, at least for me. subversion setup.hint: ------------------------------------------------------------ sdesc: "A version control system" ldesc: "Subversion is a version control system that aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS in the open source community" category: Devel requires: cygwin libapr1 libaprutil1 libdb4.2 libexpat1 libintl8 libneon27 zlib subversion-apache2 setup.hint: ------------------------------------------------------------ sdesc: "A version control system (Apache 2 modules)" ldesc: "Subversion is a version control system that aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS in the open source community" category: Net Web Devel requires: subversion apache2 external-source: subversion subversion-devel setup.hint: ------------------------------------------------------------ sdesc: "A version control system (C headers and import libraries)" ldesc: "Subversion is a version control system that aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS in the open source community" category: Devel requires: subversion external-source: subversion subversion-perl setup.hint: ------------------------------------------------------------ sdesc: "A version control system (perl bindings)" ldesc: "Subversion is a version control system that aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS in the open source community" category: Devel Libs requires: subversion perl external-source: subversion subversion-python setup.hint: ------------------------------------------------------------ sdesc: "A version control system (python bindings)" ldesc: "Subversion is a version control system that aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS in the open source community" category: Devel Libs requires: subversion python external-source: subversion subversion-ruby setup.hint: ------------------------------------------------------------ sdesc: "A version control system (ruby bindings)" ldesc: "Subversion is a version control system that aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS in the open source community" category: Devel Libs requires: subversion ruby external-source: subversion download: ------------------------------------------------------------ wget -x -nH --cut-dirs=2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1-src.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-apache2/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-apache2/subversion-apache2-1.4.6-1.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-devel/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-devel/subversion-devel-1.4.6-1.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-perl/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-perl/subversion-perl-1.4.6-1.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-python/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-python/subversion-python-1.4.6-1.tar.bz2 \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-ruby/setup.hint \ http://mysite.verizon.net/res00a7j/cygwin/subversion/subversion-ruby/subversion-ruby-1.4.6-1.tar.bz2 -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org "And kids... learn something from Susie and Eddie. If you think there's a maniacal psycho-geek in the basement: 1) Don't give him a chance to hit you on the head with an axe! 2) Flee the premises... even if you're in your underwear. 3) Warn the neighbors and call the police. But whatever else you do... DON'T GO DOWN IN THE DAMN BASEMENT!" -- Saturday Night Live meets Friday the 13th ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-05-23 17:24 [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-06 7:57 ` Dr. Volker Zell 2008-06-06 15:19 ` David Rothenberger 2008-06-06 11:04 ` Reini Urban 2008-06-12 20:06 ` David Rothenberger 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Dr. Volker Zell @ 2008-06-06 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps >>>>> David Rothenberger writes: > I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've packaged the > latest release (1.4.6). The build fails for me : http://volkerzell.de/cygwin/tmp/subversion-1.4.6-1-compile.log Ciao Volker ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-06 7:57 ` Dr. Volker Zell @ 2008-06-06 15:19 ` David Rothenberger 2008-06-07 11:01 ` Dr. Volker Zell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-06 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On 6/6/2008 12:49 AM, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: >>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: > > > I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've packaged the > > latest release (1.4.6). > > The build fails for me > : > http://volkerzell.de/cygwin/tmp/subversion-1.4.6-1-compile.log I saw this in the build log: > checking for availability of Berkeley DB... no Do you have libdb4.2-devel-4.2.52.5-2 installed? -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org "Jesus saves...but Gretzky gets the rebound!" -- Daniel Hinojosa (hinojosa@hp-sdd) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-06 15:19 ` David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-07 11:01 ` Dr. Volker Zell 2008-06-07 19:43 ` Reini Urban 2008-06-07 19:54 ` David Rothenberger 0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: Dr. Volker Zell @ 2008-06-07 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps >>>>> David Rothenberger writes: > On 6/6/2008 12:49 AM, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: >>>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: >> > I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've >> packaged the >> > latest release (1.4.6). >> The build fails for me >> : >> http://volkerzell.de/cygwin/tmp/subversion-1.4.6-1-compile.log > I saw this in the build log: >> checking for availability of Berkeley DB... no > Do you have libdb4.2-devel-4.2.52.5-2 installed? No, libdb4.5-devel Ciao Volker ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-07 11:01 ` Dr. Volker Zell @ 2008-06-07 19:43 ` Reini Urban 2008-06-07 19:58 ` David Rothenberger 2008-06-07 19:54 ` David Rothenberger 1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Reini Urban @ 2008-06-07 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps 2008/6/7 Dr. Volker Zell <dr.volker.zell@oracle.com>: >>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: > > > On 6/6/2008 12:49 AM, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: > >>>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: > >> > I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've > >> packaged the > >> > latest release (1.4.6). > >> The build fails for me > >> : > >> http://volkerzell.de/cygwin/tmp/subversion-1.4.6-1-compile.log > > > I saw this in the build log: > > >> checking for availability of Berkeley DB... no > > > Do you have libdb4.2-devel-4.2.52.5-2 installed? > > No, libdb4.5-devel libtool2 still has the same problem. With the new libtool2 patch. buildcheck: libtool version 2.2.2 (ok) ... checking for unistd.h... yes configuring libtool now /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: line 5960: syntax error near unexpected token `lt _decl_varnames,' /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: line 5960: `lt_if_append_uniq(lt_decl_varnames, S ED, , ,' *** ERROR: configure failed Anyway, subversion is GTG. libtool2 is still in testing. -- Reini Urban http://phpwiki.org/ http://murbreak.at/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-07 19:43 ` Reini Urban @ 2008-06-07 19:58 ` David Rothenberger 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-07 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On 6/7/2008 12:42 PM, Reini Urban wrote: > 2008/6/7 Dr. Volker Zell <dr.volker.zell@oracle.com>: >>>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: >> > On 6/6/2008 12:49 AM, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: >> >>>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: >> >> > I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've >> >> packaged the >> >> > latest release (1.4.6). >> >> The build fails for me >> >> : >> >> http://volkerzell.de/cygwin/tmp/subversion-1.4.6-1-compile.log >> >> > I saw this in the build log: >> >> >> checking for availability of Berkeley DB... no >> >> > Do you have libdb4.2-devel-4.2.52.5-2 installed? >> >> No, libdb4.5-devel > > libtool2 still has the same problem. With the new libtool2 patch. > > buildcheck: libtool version 2.2.2 (ok) > ... > checking for unistd.h... yes > configuring libtool now > /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: > line 5960: syntax error near unexpected token `lt > _decl_varnames,' > /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: > line 5960: `lt_if_append_uniq(lt_decl_varnames, S > ED, , ,' > *** ERROR: configure failed Weird. Works for me here. > Anyway, subversion is GTG. > libtool2 is still in testing. Thanks for testing. -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org QOTD: Talent does what it can, genius what it must. I do what I get paid to do. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-07 11:01 ` Dr. Volker Zell 2008-06-07 19:43 ` Reini Urban @ 2008-06-07 19:54 ` David Rothenberger 1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-07 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygapps I accidentally sent this as a personal email to Dr. Zell. Resending to the list... On 6/7/2008 4:00 AM, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: >>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: > > > On 6/6/2008 12:49 AM, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: > >>>>>>> David Rothenberger writes: > >> > I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've > >> packaged the > >> > latest release (1.4.6). > >> The build fails for me > >> : > >> http://volkerzell.de/cygwin/tmp/subversion-1.4.6-1-compile.log > > > I saw this in the build log: > > >> checking for availability of Berkeley DB... no > > > Do you have libdb4.2-devel-4.2.52.5-2 installed? > > No, libdb4.5-devel I think the build process requires the devel package for the version of Berkeley DB that was used to build APR. Can you try again with libdb4.2-devel? -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org "Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers." -- Chip Salzenberg ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-05-23 17:24 [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 David Rothenberger 2008-06-06 7:57 ` Dr. Volker Zell @ 2008-06-06 11:04 ` Reini Urban 2008-06-06 15:16 ` David Rothenberger 2008-06-12 20:06 ` David Rothenberger 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Reini Urban @ 2008-06-06 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps 2008/5/23 David Rothenberger <daveroth@acm.org>: > I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've packaged the > latest release (1.4.6). > > I used the Subversion client daily, but not any of the bindings or > the Apache2 module. I've run the included test suite and everything > passes except the Ruby bindings. It looks like this might be a > problem with the tests and not the bindings, but I'm not sure. > > I'd appreciate at least one GTG on this, since the packaging is > complicated, at least for me. libdb4.2-devel should be used, and not the filesystem driver. checking neon library version... 0.27.0 You have neon version 0.27.0, but Subversion needs neon 0.25.5. An appropriate version of neon could not be found, so libsvn_ra_dav will not be built. If you want to build libsvn_ra_dav, please either install neon 0.25.5 on this system or get neon 0.25.5 from: http://www.webdav.org/neon/neon-0.25.5.tar.gz unpack the archive using tar/gunzip and rename the resulting directory from ./neon-0.25.5/ to ./neon/ no suitable neon found huh? really? configuring libtool now /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: line 5960: syntax error near unexpected token `lt _decl_varnames,' /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: line 5960: `lt_if_append_uniq(lt_decl_varnames, S ED, , ,' *** ERROR: configure failed -- Reini Urban http://phpwiki.org/ http://murbreak.at/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-06 11:04 ` Reini Urban @ 2008-06-06 15:16 ` David Rothenberger 2008-06-06 19:37 ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-06 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On 6/6/2008 4:03 AM, Reini Urban wrote: > 2008/5/23 David Rothenberger <daveroth@acm.org>: >> I would like to adopt Subversion from Max Bowsher. I've packaged the >> latest release (1.4.6). >> >> I used the Subversion client daily, but not any of the bindings or >> the Apache2 module. I've run the included test suite and everything >> passes except the Ruby bindings. It looks like this might be a >> problem with the tests and not the bindings, but I'm not sure. >> >> I'd appreciate at least one GTG on this, since the packaging is >> complicated, at least for me. > > libdb4.2-devel should be used, and not the filesystem driver. Why is that? Support for both BDB and FSFS builds fine and all tests pass with both. FSFS is the default on other platforms. Is there some reason it should not be included on Cygwin? > checking neon library version... 0.27.0 > You have neon version 0.27.0, > but Subversion needs neon 0.25.5. > > An appropriate version of neon could not be found, so libsvn_ra_dav > will not be built. If you want to build libsvn_ra_dav, please either > install neon 0.25.5 on this system > > or > > get neon 0.25.5 from: > http://www.webdav.org/neon/neon-0.25.5.tar.gz > unpack the archive using tar/gunzip and rename the resulting > directory from ./neon-0.25.5/ to ./neon/ > > no suitable neon found > huh? really? 1.4.6 only supported up to 0.26.4, but I applied a patch from Debian to also support 0.27.2 and 0.28.2. 0.27.0 is not supported, though. Do you have the latest version of libneon-devel installed? If so, you should be building against 0.28.2. > configuring libtool now > /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: > line 5960: syntax error near unexpected token `lt > _decl_varnames,' > /usr/src/subversion/subversion-1.4.6-1/src/subversion-1.4.6/configure: > line 5960: `lt_if_append_uniq(lt_decl_varnames, S > ED, , ,' > *** ERROR: configure failed 1.4.6 won't build with libtool 2.x. It requires 1.5. I'm not going to address that because 1. I'm not well versed with libtool. 2. subversion 1.5.0 is imminent and supports libtool 2.x. However, I'd be happy to include patches to support libtool 2.x if someone provides them. -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org "I'm not a god, I was misquoted." -- Lister, Red Dwarf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-06 15:16 ` David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-06 19:37 ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) 2008-06-06 19:50 ` David Rothenberger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) @ 2008-06-06 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 David Rothenberger wrote: | 1.4.6 won't build with libtool 2.x. Why not? I've been working with 2.2.2 since it's release, and just about anything else builds with 2.x, even if originally packaged with 1.5. Yaakov -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhJkeUACgkQpiWmPGlmQSMnRACfRmj64rOSARHUGyXlb3TyN+Vm /FEAoPzpYOfZGR2Z5zLVBk1feoMLE3RE =iY0U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-06 19:37 ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) @ 2008-06-06 19:50 ` David Rothenberger 2008-06-06 21:32 ` David Rothenberger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-06 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On 6/6/2008 12:37 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin Ports) wrote: > David Rothenberger wrote: > | 1.4.6 won't build with libtool 2.x. > > Why not? I've been working with 2.2.2 since it's release, and just > about anything else builds with 2.x, even if originally packaged with 1.5. I have no idea. Like I said, I'm not a libtool expert (or even a developer that uses libtool in my own work). Nevertheless, it doesn't work and fails with the errors Reini reported. I'm trying a patch from subversion's SVN trunk that added support for 2.x. It's included in the 1.5 release, but I'll see if it will work with 1.4.6. -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org Imbesi's Law with Freeman's Extension: In order for something to become clean, something else must become dirty; but you can get everything dirty without getting anything clean. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-06 19:50 ` David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-06 21:32 ` David Rothenberger 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-06 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On 6/6/2008 12:49 PM, David Rothenberger wrote: > I'm trying a patch from subversion's SVN trunk that added support for > 2.x. It's included in the 1.5 release, but I'll see if it will work with > 1.4.6. The patch works. I've put up a new set of tarballs with the patch, built with libtool 2.x. The version number is the same, so you can just download them using the command in this message: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2008-05/msg00175.html -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org Extreme fear can neither fight nor fly. -- William Shakespeare, "The Rape of Lucrece" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-05-23 17:24 [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 David Rothenberger 2008-06-06 7:57 ` Dr. Volker Zell 2008-06-06 11:04 ` Reini Urban @ 2008-06-12 20:06 ` David Rothenberger 2008-06-13 8:40 ` Corinna Vinschen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-12 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On 5/23/2008 10:23 AM, David Rothenberger wrote: > I'd appreciate at least one GTG on this, since the packaging is > complicated, at least for me. Ping? So far I've got one GTG from Reini even though he still has problem building with libtool 2. Volker also had troubles building, but did not have libdb4.2-devel installed and hasn't reported back regarding whether the package builds with it installed or not. -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org QOTD: Silence is the only virtue he has left. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-12 20:06 ` David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-13 8:40 ` Corinna Vinschen 2008-06-13 18:05 ` David Rothenberger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2008-06-13 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On Jun 12 13:05, David Rothenberger wrote: > On 5/23/2008 10:23 AM, David Rothenberger wrote: >> I'd appreciate at least one GTG on this, since the packaging is >> complicated, at least for me. > > Ping? > > So far I've got one GTG from Reini even though he still has problem > building with libtool 2. Volker also had troubles building, but did not > have libdb4.2-devel installed and hasn't reported back regarding whether > the package builds with it installed or not. I've uploaded subversion. Thanks for taking over maintainership. I just saw that subversion depends on apr1/aprutil1 which are also orphaned packages. Would you be interested to take over maintainership for them as well? Thanks, Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: [ITA] subversion-1.4.6-1 2008-06-13 8:40 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2008-06-13 18:05 ` David Rothenberger 0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread From: David Rothenberger @ 2008-06-13 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin-apps On 6/13/2008 1:40 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jun 12 13:05, David Rothenberger wrote: >> On 5/23/2008 10:23 AM, David Rothenberger wrote: >>> I'd appreciate at least one GTG on this, since the packaging is >>> complicated, at least for me. >> Ping? >> >> So far I've got one GTG from Reini even though he still has problem >> building with libtool 2. Volker also had troubles building, but did not >> have libdb4.2-devel installed and hasn't reported back regarding whether >> the package builds with it installed or not. > > I've uploaded subversion. Thanks. > I just saw that subversion depends on apr1/aprutil1 which are also > orphaned packages. Would you be interested to take over > maintainership for them as well? Maybe. I'll have a look at it once I get the upcoming Subversion 1.5.0 release packaged. -- David Rothenberger ---- daveroth@acm.org My only love sprung from my only hate! Too early seen unknown, and known too late! -- William Shakespeare, "Romeo and Juliet" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
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