[ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Andy Koppe]

I'd like to maintain MinTTY as an official Cygwin package. MinTTY is a 
small and fast pty-based terminal emulator with a native Windows user 
interface. As it's a new program, it requires 5 positive votes.

Big thanks to Yaakov for making providing initial packages through 
Cygwin Ports.

Regards,
Andy


Files:
http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.4-1/mintty-0.3.4-1-src.tar.bz2
http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.4-1/mintty-0.3.4-1.tar.bz2
http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.4-1/setup.hint

setup.hint:

category: Shells
requires: cygwin bash cygutils
sdesc: "Terminal emulator with native Windows look and feel"
ldesc: "MinTTY is a terminal emulator for Cygwin. It is based on code
from PuTTY 0.60 by Simon Tatham and team.

Features include:
* Xterm-compatible terminal emulation.
* Native Windows user interface that tries to keep things simple.
* Drag & drop and copy & paste of text, files and folders.
* Mousewheel events can be sent as arrow keys.
* Options are stored in a text file. No registry entries.
* Window transparency.
* Small executable size (currently <120K)."

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Chris Sutcliffe]

> I'd like to maintain MinTTY as an official Cygwin package. MinTTY is a small
> and fast pty-based terminal emulator with a native Windows user interface.
> As it's a new program, it requires 5 positive votes.

Not sure if I qualify, but I give it a +1.

Chris

-- 
Chris Sutcliffe
http://emergedesktop.org

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Dave Korn]

Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
>> I'd like to maintain MinTTY as an official Cygwin package. MinTTY is a small
>> and fast pty-based terminal emulator with a native Windows user interface.
>> As it's a new program, it requires 5 positive votes.
>
> Not sure if I qualify, but I give it a +1.
>
> Chris
>

  I'm sure the overwhelming positive response on the main list to this
package makes its acceptance into the distro a formality, really.  +1.

    cheers,
      DaveK

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Robert Pendell]

Dave Korn wrote:
> Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
>>> I'd like to maintain MinTTY as an official Cygwin package. MinTTY is a small
>>> and fast pty-based terminal emulator with a native Windows user interface.
>>> As it's a new program, it requires 5 positive votes.
>> Not sure if I qualify, but I give it a +1.
>>
>> Chris
>>
> 
>   I'm sure the overwhelming positive response on the main list to this
> package makes its acceptance into the distro a formality, really.  +1.
> 
>     cheers,
>       DaveK

I agree.  +1 from me.  I use it all the time. ;)

P.S. - Sorry Dave for sending directly to you first time around.

-- 
Robert Pendell
shinji@elite-systems.org

"A perfect world is one of chaos."

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CAcert Assurer

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 06:13:34PM -0500, Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
>On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:47:43PM +0000, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>I'd like to maintain MinTTY as an official Cygwin package.  MinTTY is a
>>small and fast pty-based terminal emulator with a native Windows user
>>interface.  As it's a new program, it requires 5 positive votes.
>
>Not sure if I qualify, but I give it a +1.

Sure you do.  You are a package maintainer.

+1 from me, too.

Out of curiousity, why does this package rely on cygutils?

cgf

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Yaakov (Cygwin/X)]

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Christopher Faylor wrote:
> Out of curiousity, why does this package rely on cygutils?

The postinstall script calls mkshortcut(1).


Yaakov
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Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Yaakov (Cygwin/X)]

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Andy Koppe wrote:
> I'd like to maintain MinTTY as an official Cygwin package. MinTTY is a
> small and fast pty-based terminal emulator with a native Windows user
> interface. As it's a new program, it requires 5 positive votes.

+1, that makes five.

> Big thanks to Yaakov for making providing initial packages through
> Cygwin Ports.

Glad to help.  Under the circumstances, I'll let someone else to review
the packages.  It's a really quick build with deps only on cygwin and
w32api, so I hope someone will step forward quickly.


Yaakov
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Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Charles Wilson]

Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:

> Glad to help.  Under the circumstances, I'll let someone else to review
> the packages.  It's a really quick build with deps only on cygwin and
> w32api, so I hope someone will step forward quickly.

Packaging looks good, and builds fine from source. Just one quibble with
the package; the following CFLAGS as used:

-MMD -MP -include std.h -std=gnu99 -Wall -Wextra -Werror -DNDEBUG
-march=i586 -mtune=pentium-m -fomit-frame-pointer -Os -DVERSION=0.3.4

Most of these are uncontroversial (although the -include std.h is a bit
odd; I assume this is something MinTTY inherited from Putty). However,
I'm not sure what the cygwin policy is on -march=-i586.  This flag means
that the generated code will not work on i486 and below; while -mtune
merely implies that the code is optimized for pentium-m but should work
on any other processor not specifically disallowed by -march.

Doesn't cygwin officially support i386, or are we allowed to assume i586
and above, now?

--
Chuck

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Ralph Hempel]

Charles Wilson wrote:

> Doesn't cygwin officially support i386, or are we allowed to assume i586
> and above, now?

Considering that support for Win98 is going to be dropped, the
question may be answered if Win2K or better will even run on
a 386 or 486? :-)

Ralph

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Eric Blake]

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According to Ralph Hempel on 1/18/2009 4:44 PM:
> Charles Wilson wrote:
> 
>> Doesn't cygwin officially support i386, or are we allowed to assume i586
>> and above, now?
> 
> Considering that support for Win98 is going to be dropped, the
> question may be answered if Win2K or better will even run on
> a 386 or 486? :-)

In which case, shouldn't the gcc defaults be bumped to require this by
default?

- --
Don't work too hard, make some time for fun as well!

Eric Blake             ebb9@byu.net
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Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Dave Korn]

Eric Blake wrote:
> According to Ralph Hempel on 1/18/2009 4:44 PM:
>> Charles Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't cygwin officially support i386, or are we allowed to assume i586
>>> and above, now?
>> Considering that support for Win98 is going to be dropped, the
>> question may be answered if Win2K or better will even run on
>> a 386 or 486? :-)
>
> In which case, shouldn't the gcc defaults be bumped to require this by
> default?

  According to

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304297

the minimum is i586 (Pentium 1).  So yes, we should change the gcc defaults.
I'll fix my local patchset and try to remember to post a patch upstream as well.

    cheers,
      DaveK

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Dave Korn]

  Hang on... one little afterthought.

>>> Considering that support for Win98 is going to be dropped, the
>>> question may be answered if Win2K or better will even run on
>>> a 386 or 486? :-)

  Did we drop support for NT4 already? ;-)

    cheers,
      DaveK

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Charles Wilson]

Ralph Hempel wrote:
> Charles Wilson wrote:
>> Doesn't cygwin officially support i386, or are we allowed to assume i586
>> and above, now?
> 
> Considering that support for Win98 is going to be dropped, the
> question may be answered if Win2K or better will even run on
> a 386 or 486? :-)

a) cygwin-1.7 will still support NT, IIRC, so the relevant question is
what processor NT supports, not W2k.
b) we haven't dropped Win9x support YET -- that won't happen until
cygwin-1.7 is officially released. Right now it's still in...what?
public beta?

--
Chuck

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Yaakov (Cygwin/X)]

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Dave Korn wrote:
>   Did we drop support for NT4 already? ;-)

Is NT4 really *still* supported by MS?


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Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Andy Koppe]

>> I'd like to maintain MinTTY as an official Cygwin package. MinTTY is a
>> small and fast pty-based terminal emulator with a native Windows user
>> interface. As it's a new program, it requires 5 positive votes.
> 
> +1, that makes five.

Thanks everyone for the support!


Charles Wilson wrote:
> a) cygwin-1.7 will still support NT, IIRC, so the relevant question is
> what processor NT supports, not W2k.
> b) we haven't dropped Win9x support YET -- that won't happen until
> cygwin-1.7 is officially released. Right now it's still in...what?
> public beta?

Wikipedia says that Microsoft support for NT was dropped in 2004 and 
that 98 and ME were mercy-killed in 2006. I doubt that MinTTY will work 
on any of them. In particular, the transparency functions are only 
available from Win2K onwards, and I don't know what happens when trying 
to call them before that. Unicode might cause trouble too.


 > the -include std.h is a bit odd; I assume this is something MinTTY
 > inherited from Putty

No, that's entirely my fault. It includes a bunch of stuff that I wanted 
to have available without having to include it separately everywhere. 
There are standard C headers plus windef.h and also some convenience 
typedefs and macros. Regarding above issue, it defines WINVER to 0x0500.

I addressed a couple more small issues on SVN, including adding the 
ability to invoke the user's default shell as a login shell, by running 
mintty with "-" as the command.

I also discovered a problem in command line processing: after selecting 
a config file with --config, mintty will try to invoke "--config" as the 
command. Basically, an 'argv += 2' is missing, but I ought to change the 
current ad-hoc command line processing to a getopt_long solution anyway.

So I think it'd be best to hold the package process until 0.3.5.

Andy

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.4

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jan 18 19:46, Charles Wilson wrote:
> Ralph Hempel wrote:
> > Charles Wilson wrote:
> >> Doesn't cygwin officially support i386, or are we allowed to assume i586
> >> and above, now?
> > 
> > Considering that support for Win98 is going to be dropped, the
> > question may be answered if Win2K or better will even run on
> > a 386 or 486? :-)
> 
> a) cygwin-1.7 will still support NT, IIRC, so the relevant question is
> what processor NT supports, not W2k.
> b) we haven't dropped Win9x support YET -- that won't happen until
> cygwin-1.7 is officially released. Right now it's still in...what?
> public beta?

Maybe I'm too modern or something, but I think that i586 is as old as we
should care these days, CPU-wise.  Even if we still support NT4 and,
barely, 9x.


Corinna

-- 
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Project Co-Leader          cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Red Hat

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.5

[Andy Koppe]

Andy Koppe wrote:
> I addressed a couple more small issues on SVN, including adding the 
> ability to invoke the user's default shell as a login shell, by running 
> mintty with "-" as the command.
> 
> I also discovered a problem in command line processing: after selecting 
> a config file with --config, mintty will try to invoke "--config" as the 
> command. Basically, an 'argv += 2' is missing, but I ought to change the 
> current ad-hoc command line processing to a getopt_long solution anyway.
> 
> So I think it'd be best to hold the package process until 0.3.5.

As announced on the main list, I've released version 0.3.5 of MinTTY.

The package files are available from
http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/mintty-0.3.5-1-src.tar.bz2
http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/mintty-0.3.5-1.tar.bz2
http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/setup.hint

The shortcut generated by the postinstall script now starts mintty with 
'-' as the command, thus invoking the user's default shell as a login shell.

Andy

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.5

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jan 20 19:56, Andy Koppe wrote:
> http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/mintty-0.3.5-1-src.tar.bz2
> http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/mintty-0.3.5-1.tar.bz2
> http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/setup.hint

Uploaded.  Thanks for providing and maintaining this interesting new
package.  Please don't forget to send an announcement according to
http://cygwin.com/setup.html#submitting, section 8 to
cygwin-announce@cygwin.com.


Thanks,
Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Project Co-Leader          cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Red Hat

Re: [ITP] mintty 0.3.5

[Andy Koppe]

2009/1/21 Corinna Vinschen:
> On Jan 20 19:56, Andy Koppe wrote:
>> http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/mintty-0.3.5-1-src.tar.bz2
>> http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/mintty-0.3.5-1.tar.bz2
>> http://mintty.googlecode.com/svn/pkgs/cygwin/0.3.5-1/setup.hint
>
> Uploaded.

Thanks!

> Please don't forget to send an announcement according to
> http://cygwin.com/setup.html#submitting, section 8 to
> cygwin-announce@cygwin.com.

Will do later today.

Andy