From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27748 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 2011 04:50:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27736 invoked by uid 22791); 8 Nov 2011 04:50:23 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (HELO out3.smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.27) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:50:09 +0000 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C601210C1 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 23:50:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 07 Nov 2011 23:50:09 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (50-88-210-98.res.bhn.net [50.88.210.98]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F406B4834D5; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 23:50:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EB8B4E9.4090307@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:50:00 -0000 From: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090812 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mailing List: CygWin-Apps Subject: Re: [ITP] astrometry.net-0.38-1 References: <6r0p87d36jnok922ec2mkfjqpog218994j@4ax.com> <4E8F0AA2.4060402@gmail.com> <4EB3865A.2060400@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <4EB45567.5030500@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <4EB7EF3D.8090004@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <20111107161723.GB4738@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> In-Reply-To: <20111107161723.GB4738@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2011-11/txt/msg00043.txt.bz2 On 11/7/2011 11:17 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > I've been trying not to offer an opinion here but it isn't clear to me > why so many people voted +1 for this package. It seems like we're > adding a huge package Meh, if you exclude the star catalogs (and I think we should; and the OP has agreed to avoid), then bin+src weighs in at 25MB (65MB uncompressed), which is pretty large but not unheard of. Most of that is because it has a ton of exe's, and all but one are linked statically to various support libraries. (Oddly all of those libs get dumped together into the DLL, and that dll is used by only one client. But, conceivably, the other exes could also link to that dll, for a big win: from 45MB uncompressed to approx 2.5MB, based on my seat-of-pants calculation). > to the distribution just to help out a very > miniscule user base. Meh, without casting aspersions, I doubt the user base of our various specialized math tools -- like singular, octave, fftw3, qhull, etc -- are very large in absolute terms. But...we have maintainers, they volunteered and contributed, so here we are. If they go AWOL, then the package gets slapped with _obsolete. Same deal here. > Do we really need this package in the Cygwin > distribution? Well, not as such, no. We don't really NEED very much of what's currently part of the distro -- but that's never been the justification for package acceptance. Do we "need" fortune or robots? I think it's kinda cool for cygwin be one of the first (not THE first; it's already in BSD ports IIUC) to provide these tools, so that's why I voted +1. However, you're still (one of the) benevolent(?) dictators-for-life. Are you exercising a veto? If so, we can teach the OP how to set up an add-on setup.exe repository, like cygwin-ports, which he can host over at astronomytortilla or whatever -- so it's not a "disaster" if you are vetoing. -- Chuck