From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from re-prd-fep-048.btinternet.com (mailomta12-re.btinternet.com [213.120.69.105]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E0B63853565 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2022 12:23:01 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 2E0B63853565 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dronecode.org.uk Received: from re-prd-rgout-004.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net ([10.2.54.7]) by re-prd-fep-048.btinternet.com with ESMTP id <20220703122300.VVVN3057.re-prd-fep-048.btinternet.com@re-prd-rgout-004.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net>; Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:23:00 +0100 Authentication-Results: btinternet.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=jonturney@btinternet.com; bimi=skipped X-SNCR-Rigid: 613A901C2CF0846B X-Originating-IP: [86.139.167.41] X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.139.167.41 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: jonturney@btinternet.com X-VadeSecure-score: verdict=clean score=0/300, class=clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrudehjedgheduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuueftkffvkffujffvgffngfevqffopdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeflohhnucfvuhhrnhgvhicuoehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhgfefuddutdettdejveetteetgfegfeeijeeijeehffejffeggfejgfeitefhvdenucffohhmrghinhepphihthhhohhnrdhorhhgpdgthihgfihinhdrtghomhenucfkphepkeeirddufeelrdduieejrdegudenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegludelvddrudeikedruddruddthegnpdhinhgvthepkeeirddufeelrdduieejrdeguddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhrtghpthhtoheptgihghifihhnqdgrphhpshestgihghifihhnrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepmhgrrhgtohdrrghtiigvrhhisehgmhgrihhlrdgtohhm X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean Received: from [192.168.1.105] (86.139.167.41) by re-prd-rgout-004.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net (5.8.716.04) (authenticated as jonturney@btinternet.com) id 613A901C2CF0846B; Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:23:00 +0100 Message-ID: <726f1956-fecc-bd27-f4ff-03aeb34eb286@dronecode.org.uk> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:22:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Subject: Re: [patch] cygport : update to python 3.9 Content-Language: en-GB To: Marco Atzeri , "cygwin-apps@cygwin.com" References: <9eb22f83-e7e9-1ec5-1aed-5e0b6c8c7848@gmail.com> <0b919336-2caf-7ca1-3956-690c547ea45a@dronecode.org.uk> From: Jon Turney In-Reply-To: <0b919336-2caf-7ca1-3956-690c547ea45a@dronecode.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1192.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_SPF_HELO, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, KAM_NUMSUBJECT, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NONE, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Cygwin package maintainer discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:23:02 -0000 On 29/05/2022 16:54, Jon Turney wrote: >> >> Following is a sort of RFC, so let me know your opinion. >> >> Currently we have two type of Python packages >> >> 1) Pure python that exists at max as 2.7 3.6 3.7 3.8 3.9 plus 2 and 3 >> >>     in that case 2/2.7 3/3.6 are EOL; >>     I stopped last year to update the 2.7 and I am thinking to do the >>     same for 3.6 now. >> >>     I do not see the need to continue to update 3.7, it never become >>     default as we jumped from 3.6 to 3.8 and it is not more >>     active upstream: >>     https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0537/#lifespan >> >>     We can update the 3.8 and 3.9 while preparing/testing for 3.10 >> >>     source package will continue to use the "python-*" form, while >>     "python3-*" should not be used. > > I disagree about the second half of that sentence. > > From a package management point of view: > > * being able to script 'install python3, python3-foo' and get the foo > for the default python is useful > > * having the setup remember that python3-foo was installed (causing > python39-foo to be installed), means when the default python is updated > from python39 to python3nn, setup will also install python3nn-foo, so > local scripts with a python3 shebang which 'import foo' continue to work. > > I've posted a cygport patch which adjusts cygport to generate these > python3-foo virtual packages. What do you think about that? I've released a cygport 0.35.2 with that patch [1] applied. Please let me know if it causes you problems. (It also fixes an issue where the presence of a python3 shebang wasn't correctly detected as a dependency on the python3 package due to python3 being a symlink now) [1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-apps/2022-May/042051.html