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PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Dave Korn]

Eric Blake wrote:
> According to Andrew Schulman on 1/9/2009 7:42 AM:
>> Subject says it all.  setup sees the package as new, and reinstalls it, every
>> time.
>>
>> Is this a known problem?  I didn't see any other reports of it.  Is there a
>> simple fix or workaround?
> 
> The package is a source-only package, but something else you have selected
> depends on it.  Because it is source-only, setup.exe has nothing to
> install when doing the default binary-only installation; and even if you
> do install source, setup.exe doesn't recognize that a source-only package
> has been installed.

  In the meantime, I think that ocaml, ccache and distcc should remove gcc
from their setup.hint lines, and perhaps replace it by gcc-core.

    cheers,
      DaveK

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:54:30PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote:
>Eric Blake wrote:
>>According to Andrew Schulman on 1/9/2009 7:42 AM:
>>>Subject says it all.  setup sees the package as new, and reinstalls it,
>>>every time.
>>>
>>>Is this a known problem?  I didn't see any other reports of it.  Is
>>>there a simple fix or workaround?
>>
>>The package is a source-only package, but something else you have
>>selected depends on it.  Because it is source-only, setup.exe has
>>nothing to install when doing the default binary-only installation; and
>>even if you do install source, setup.exe doesn't recognize that a
>>source-only package has been installed.
>
>In the meantime, I think that ocaml, ccache and distcc should remove
>gcc from their setup.hint lines, and perhaps replace it by gcc-core.

I've made the change but I wonder if I should just remove ccache from
the distro.  I have never heard that anyone is using it.

cgf

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Eric Blake]

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According to Christopher Faylor on 3/30/2009 7:47 PM:
> I've made the change but I wonder if I should just remove ccache from
> the distro.  I have never heard that anyone is using it.

I use it in some of my build trees, although I have never really measured
how much (if any) difference it makes.

- --
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Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 09:06:04PM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
>According to Christopher Faylor on 3/30/2009 7:47 PM:
>>I've made the change but I wonder if I should just remove ccache from
>>the distro.  I have never heard that anyone is using it.
>
>I use it in some of my build trees, although I have never really
>measured how much (if any) difference it makes.

It makes a big difference on linux but I haven't used it that much on
Cygwin.

But, one user is all I need.  I should look into updating the package.
It's pretty ancient.

cgf

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Dave Korn]

Eric Blake wrote:
> According to Christopher Faylor on 3/30/2009 7:47 PM:
>> I've made the change but I wonder if I should just remove ccache from
>> the distro.  I have never heard that anyone is using it.
> 
> I use it in some of my build trees, although I have never really measured
> how much (if any) difference it makes.

  I deployed it - specifically, the Cygwin distro version - at my last job to
speed up our builds.  (The benefits are particularly noticeable for C++; you
need a much larger source file for plain C to really notice the difference
than you do in C++, because compilation of plain C is so much faster that it
becomes comparable to the overheads of preprocessing the file in a separate
step and fetching the related object from the cache.)

    cheers,
      DaveK

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[Jari Aalto]

Christopher Faylor <cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@cygwin.com> writes:

> I've made the change but I wonder if I should just remove ccache from
> the distro.  I have never heard that anyone is using it.

Please don't.

I speeds up compiling. I use it all the time.

Jari

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Lapo Luchini]

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> I've made the change but I wonder if I should just remove ccache from
> the distro.  I have never heard that anyone is using it.

Here I am!

-- 
Lapo Luchini - http://lapo.it/

“Real Programmers always confuse Christmas and Halloween because Oct31
== Dec25.” (Andrew Rutherford)

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:55:38PM +0200, Lapo Luchini wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> I've made the change but I wonder if I should just remove ccache from
>> the distro.  I have never heard that anyone is using it.
>
>Here I am!

Yes.  I get it:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2009-03/msg00147.html

cgf

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Lapo Luchini]

Dave Korn wrote:
>   In the meantime, I think that ocaml, ccache and distcc should remove gcc
> from their setup.hint lines, and perhaps replace it by gcc-core.

BTW: both 'ccache' and 'distcc' are depending on 'gcc' in latest
setup.ini (I'm trying to avoid gcc-3 on my fresh install).

-- 
Lapo Luchini - http://lapo.it/

“The death rate is the same for us as for anybody… one person, one
death, sooner or later.” (Robert A. Heinlein, "Tunnel in the Sky", 1955)

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Yaakov (Cygwin/X)]

On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:23 +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote:
> Dave Korn wrote:
> >   In the meantime, I think that ocaml, ccache and distcc should remove gcc
> > from their setup.hint lines, and perhaps replace it by gcc-core.
> 
> BTW: both 'ccache' and 'distcc' are depending on 'gcc' in latest
> setup.ini (I'm trying to avoid gcc-3 on my fresh install).

Then shouldn't that be 'gcc4-core'?


Yaakov

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Lapo Luchini]

Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
>> BTW: both 'ccache' and 'distcc' are depending on 'gcc' in latest
>> setup.ini (I'm trying to avoid gcc-3 on my fresh install).
> 
> Then shouldn't that be 'gcc4-core'?

I'm not sure there should be a dependency at all: ccache doesn't depend
on any compiler, it will just call any that is called like his own
symlink and behaves like gcc... installing ccache without any compiler
doesn't do any good, ok, but it's a complete software anyways.

-- 
Lapo Luchini - http://lapo.it/

“Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not
tried it.” (Donald Knuth, 1977-03-22)

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[Damien Doligez]

On 2010-11-03, at 21:36, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 21:23 +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote:
>> Dave Korn wrote:
>>>  In the meantime, I think that ocaml, ccache and distcc should remove gcc
>>> from their setup.hint lines, and perhaps replace it by gcc-core.
>> 
>> BTW: both 'ccache' and 'distcc' are depending on 'gcc' in latest
>> setup.ini (I'm trying to avoid gcc-3 on my fresh install).
> 
> Then shouldn't that be 'gcc4-core'?

I never received Dave's message, so I'm missing some context here, but
the latest ocaml (3.12.0-4) actually depends on gcc4-core, not on any
flavor of gcc 3.

I don't think it's possible to make a binary of OCaml that can work
indifferently with gcc3 or gcc4.

-- Damien

Re: PING MAINTAINERS of ccache, distcc, ocaml: [was Re: [1.7] gcc-3.4.4-3 gets reinstalled every time I run setup]

[Lapo Luchini]

Damien Doligez wrote:
> I never received Dave's message, so I'm missing some context here, but
> the latest ocaml (3.12.0-4) actually depends on gcc4-core, not on any
> flavor of gcc 3.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/103106/focus=18420

It's fairly old, but yes, I was stating that onlt ccache and distcc
still show that dependency. =)

-- 
Lapo Luchini - http://lapo.it/

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[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:36:40PM +0100, Lapo Luchini wrote:
>Damien Doligez wrote:
>> I never received Dave's message, so I'm missing some context here, but
>> the latest ocaml (3.12.0-4) actually depends on gcc4-core, not on any
>> flavor of gcc 3.
>
>http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/103106/focus=18420
>
>It's fairly old, but yes, I was stating that onlt ccache and distcc
>still show that dependency. =)

I removed the dependency for ccache yesterday.  distcc is orphaned so I
removed the gcc and cygwin dependencies from its setup.hint.

cgf