From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omta002.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta002.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.33]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E15938582A2; Mon, 4 Jul 2022 19:41:38 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 0E15938582A2 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=systematicsw.ab.ca Received: from shw-obgw-4004a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.227]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 8RIso4X3jSp398RwvogQW0; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 19:41:37 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.5] ([184.64.124.72]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 8Rwvole3JGRNl8RwvoqngQ; Mon, 04 Jul 2022 19:41:37 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=Sfrky9du c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=62c34271 a=oHm12aVswOWz6TMtn9zYKg==:117 a=oHm12aVswOWz6TMtn9zYKg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=QJ4DNlBRAAAA:8 a=uYT-Tk0qkVT609LjNaIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=6Xero-HYq5Y0jDG34PPN:22 Message-ID: <8c74dba3-bfaa-e011-e40f-d9bb66363ce8@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 13:41:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] cygport 0.35.2-1 Content-Language: en-CA To: cygwin@cygwin.com, cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <1732944933.20220704193058@yandex.ru> From: Brian Inglis Organization: Systematic Software In-Reply-To: <1732944933.20220704193058@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfOFw0cL0Pv2tifPz5u3OwVYeJ468hJ6CyN6Jra399plXntIghKiCB4UaUTl57ezZFPwUbVaQ+QxVbXP4ptDfZX0BsiRU7fLEBBB84HHzlLhH7x2ehMZ1 nvGDdBLkSYSM4akICjaDaB8ZihYYZi2UbBHRW1VIA2HC/1LaaFGAolRIReMx2BpdB6FfKyrlS0Ka/eoJqNBWfWQE1/yz8p5T+1e9F2yKaXrqNusuI0r7HU7R X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1162.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, BODY_8BITS, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, KAM_NUMSUBJECT, NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Cygwin package maintainer discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2022 19:41:39 -0000 On 2022-07-04 10:30, Andrey Repin wrote: >> Jon Turney wrote: >>> The following packages have been uploaded to the Cygwin distribution: >>> * cygport-0.35.2-1 >>> cygport is the standard method for building and maintaining >>> packages for the Cygwin distribution. >>> Jon Turney (7): >>>       Add LICENSE variable >> I would suggest to print a note or warning if LICENSE is missing. >> This may encourage maintainers to add it. > I second that emotion. > For those unconvinced, here's a friendly detailed explanation: > https://blog.codinghorror.com/pick-a-license-any-license/ Good article! Great quote from comments: "Most developers will spend more time deciding on which license to use and figuring out the difference between all of the licenses than they will developing the app they want to license." I would suggest not yet, as there is no other documentation that it exists, what it should contain, or suggestions for use, and it would be annoying to maintainers if it appeared every time the .cygport is parsed during a build! It needs to be discussed some more on cygwin-apps. Perhaps a reminder at scallywag build or cygport upload, once the requirements have been documented? I am one of the initial users and am still short of 50% of my packages, as it is non-trivial to decide what to call a licence if not (and even sometimes if) explicitly documented in the package. Most packages contain some file called something like COPYING sometimes LICEN[CS]E which contains a bunch of clauses often without any label or name, which the maintainer has to match against known licences, possibly catalogued and named at the SPDX, CC, OSI, FSF/GNU sites, or another such as Beerware. For example, curl had a licence which is now called the "curl license": not sure if that is even valid in most English-speaking jurisdictions where the noun is "licenCe": IANAL! Similar issue to the legal basis of time being solar or GMT where UTC is not defined in any legislation. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]