From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sa-prd-fep-045.btinternet.com (mailomta26-sa.btinternet.com [213.120.69.32]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 915943858C50 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:08:57 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 915943858C50 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dronecode.org.uk Received: from sa-prd-rgout-004.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net ([10.2.38.7]) by sa-prd-fep-045.btinternet.com with ESMTP id <20221112160856.DGXP16833.sa-prd-fep-045.btinternet.com@sa-prd-rgout-004.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net>; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:08:56 +0000 Authentication-Results: btinternet.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=jonturney@btinternet.com; bimi=skipped X-SNCR-Rigid: 613943C6430FF522 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.98.246] X-OWM-Source-IP: 81.153.98.246 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: jonturney@btinternet.com X-VadeSecure-score: verdict=clean score=0/300, class=clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedrfeekgdekfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemuceutffkvffkuffjvffgnffgvefqofdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeflohhnucfvuhhrnhgvhicuoehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeehudeuveeujeeujeegueefhedttdekvedtudeileefteetfeefjeejudekfefggfenucffohhmrghinheptgihghifihhnrdgtohhmnecukfhppeekuddrudehfedrleekrddvgeeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheplgduledvrdduieekrddurddutdeingdpihhnvghtpeekuddrudehfedrleekrddvgeeipdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhonhdrthhurhhnvgihsegurhhonhgvtghouggvrdhorhhgrdhukhdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepvddprhgtphhtthhopegthihgfihinhdqrghpphhssegthihgfihinhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopehtohifohesthhofihordhnvght X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean Received: from [192.168.1.106] (81.153.98.246) by sa-prd-rgout-004.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net (5.8.716.04) (authenticated as jonturney@btinternet.com) id 613943C6430FF522; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:08:56 +0000 Message-ID: <96fd446b-5c5f-6304-9eda-c007cb33196e@dronecode.org.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:08:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Subject: Re: Cygwin x86 end-of-life Content-Language: en-GB To: Thomas Wolff , "cygwin-apps@cygwin.com" References: <13518d55-4b3c-cefd-166d-d41ec7f1a70d@dronecode.org.uk> <72f286a1-7bea-d3ca-fbef-de55c15d9e28@towo.net> <87fsep8e3t.fsf@Rainer.invalid> From: Jon Turney In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3570.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_SPF_HELO,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NONE,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 11/11/2022 20:02, Thomas Wolff wrote: > Hi Achim, > > Am 11.11.2022 um 20:50 schrieb Achim Gratz: >> Thomas Wolff writes: >>>> I plan to pause package uploads this coming Monday (2022-11-14), >>>> before starting the re-organization of the package repository to >>>> make this archive. >>> Although expected for a while, the exact date is now a very short-time >>> announcement. Can we have a moratorium for a short while? So, if not now, when? Is this actually going to cause you problems, and if so what are they specifically, or is this just a case of "change is bad"? >> That moratorium is already running for more than a year: >> >> https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2021-October/249690.html > That message does not announce a blocking of further 32-bit package > uploads, and not a precise date for such hard step either. So please > let's not commit a violation of the principle of least surprise. Sorry if this was communicated in a surprising way, but there is also another, important principle at work here, the principle of least effort, or as we might call it in this application "the principle of not inventing more work for Jon Turney to do".