From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sa-prd-fep-042.btinternet.com (mailomta5-sa.btinternet.com [213.120.69.11]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F15B3858287 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 13:02:39 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 8F15B3858287 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dronecode.org.uk Received: from sa-prd-rgout-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net ([10.2.38.5]) by sa-prd-fep-042.btinternet.com with ESMTP id <20220702130238.NRRT3231.sa-prd-fep-042.btinternet.com@sa-prd-rgout-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net> for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:02:38 +0100 Authentication-Results: btinternet.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=jonturney@btinternet.com; bimi=skipped X-SNCR-Rigid: 6139417C2D96F515 X-Originating-IP: [86.139.167.41] X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.139.167.41 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: jonturney@btinternet.com X-VadeSecure-score: verdict=clean score=0/300, class=clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrudehhedgheejucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuueftkffvkffujffvgffngfevqffopdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecunecujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvfhfhjggtgfesthejredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheplfhonhcuvfhurhhnvgihuceojhhonhdrthhurhhnvgihsegurhhonhgvtghouggvrdhorhhgrdhukheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffekiefgudejheetudeigfejledtleegleetkeduteeftdfffefhueefgfeutedtnecukfhppeekiedrudefledrudeijedrgedunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheplgduledvrdduieekrddurddutdehngdpihhnvghtpeekiedrudefledrudeijedrgedupdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhonhdrthhurhhnvgihsegurhhonhgvtghouggvrdhorhhgrdhukhdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopegthihgfihinhdqrghpphhssegthihgfihinhdrtghomh X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean Received: from [192.168.1.105] (86.139.167.41) by sa-prd-rgout-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net (5.8.716.04) (authenticated as jonturney@btinternet.com) id 6139417C2D96F515 for cygwin-apps@cygwin.com; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:02:38 +0100 Message-ID: <9b5894ef-57c7-bc62-1dc9-c08e178ab171@dronecode.org.uk> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:02:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Subject: Re: [ITP] etckeeper 1.18.17-1 Content-Language: en-GB To: "cygwin-apps@cygwin.com" References: <36cc4e85-d20c-0f52-214d-88262f704efa@t-online.de> <20220628174122.arrqtskqzt6gzhxc@lucy.dinwoodie.org> <11b99205-0b36-a700-5a07-0ed35b3df641@t-online.de> <20220629081214.zdphk3m744nfftkv@lucy.dinwoodie.org> From: Jon Turney In-Reply-To: <20220629081214.zdphk3m744nfftkv@lucy.dinwoodie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3570.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_SPF_HELO, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, KAM_NUMSUBJECT, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NONE, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Cygwin package maintainer discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 13:02:40 -0000 On 29/06/2022 09:12, Adam Dinwoodie wrote: > > Thinking about it some more, I'm also mildly concerned about the small > but non-trivial proportion of users who blithely install every package > available on Cygwin, which I don't think is going to be an issue for > more-or-less any other *nix distribution. I don't normally think it's > worth doing much to actively catering for those users -- I'm generally > of the opinion that they're making their own misery -- but in this case Oh no, they share their misery: I sometimes receive emails virtually written in green ink moaning about how long installing everything takes. The solution to that is probably to remove the option to install everything from setup, which has sometimes been mooted (or at least put it behind a command line option).