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boundary="AkWz0GUHOg0XGBMVBKZ4OYzpegTBQnE6V" --AkWz0GUHOg0XGBMVBKZ4OYzpegTBQnE6V Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0C0E5FBAA8B6D11153B243B5" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0C0E5FBAA8B6D11153B243B5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/11/2020 20:05, ASSI wrote: > Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty via Cygwin-apps writes: >> Okay, wow that is a LOT quicker. I haven't timed mine precisely buts >> it's something like: > Just look at the files in the log/ folder. Okay, shall do once this build is done. > >> Compile 2 hrs, install 40 minutes (64bit), 120 minutes (32bit), >> packaging probably like 5 minutes. > Ouch. > >> I have an NVME disk, but all my VMs (including this one) are on a SATA= >> disk, and it's a Samsung QVO 1TB one that was cheaper but also slower >> (sustained write slows down to 80 MB/s eventually). Read is quick >> though. IIRC it's presented as SATA to the VM too. > What you really need to look for is IOPS/latency, not bandwidth. I > rarely see upwards of 60MByte/s through NTFS unless very large files ar= e > involved (and only then I've ever seen it surpass the SATA barrier of > ~550MByte/s and not by much), but the QVO is better suited for warm > storage / backups and has pretty long response times and the low IOPS > that come with it when you fill the queue. The NVMe on the other hand > mostly registers below 1ms where the former SATA disk (a WD Blue) was > all over the map up to almost 300ms at times and around 3=E2=80=A610ms = average > under load. I did a test with CrystalDiskMark and my speeds for sustained read and write were 2+ GB/s, and 4k and random were 100MB/s and 40MB/s, so I think that should be good enough. I think the GB/s figures come from using the I/O cache (host is Linux), so it's just reading and writing straight from/to RAM. The system itself has 32GB of RAM as well. >> I'd better have a look at my configuration. Maybe do some disk and CPU= >> benchmarks. This is in virtualbox so perhaps it's yet another problem >> with that, in the long list of problems I seem to have with virtualbox= =2E >> The VM has 16GB of RAM dedicated to it, how does that compare to your >> system? > That system is at its official max. configuration of 32GiB (4x8GiB ECC)= =2E > But as I said, it was running around 6GiB for the whole build with some= > brief spikes to maybe 8GiB. So that seems unlikely to be your problem.= > > You run your VM (virtual storage controller) in AHCI mode or not? That= > should be the standard option for a recent Windows VM, but if not, then= > rather abysmal disk performance is semi-expected. Yeah, it's AHCI. I've tried turning Avira Antivirus off for the next rebuild (segfault and wxpython issues may be have been due to STL, not gnomevfs). I already had exceptions for C:\cygwin64 and C:\cygwin, but we'll see if that makes it any quicker. I guess I'll keep digging in the meantime. Perhaps Cygwin and VirtualBox just don't work well together. I'm not sure if it used to be faster. 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