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From: Bill Zissimopoulos <billziss@navimatics.com>
To: "cygwin-apps@cygwin.com" <cygwin-apps@cygwin.com>
Subject: Re: [ITP] FUSE 2.8
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:38:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D3BCF4D4.A894%billziss@navimatics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20160726T082243-435@post.gmane.org>

On 7/25/16, 11:27 PM, Mark Geisert wrote:


>Bill Zissimopoulos writes:
>> - Rename the package to winfsp-fuse, but have it somehow “satisfy”
>> packages that require “fuse” (e.g. SSHFS, FUSEPY). This would allow
>> multiple *-fuse packages to exist in the setup database and the user
>> chooses which one they want. My understanding based on Marco’s answer is
>> that this is not currently supported by Cygwin’s dependency system.
>
>You could define a package "fuse" with no contents and a dependency on
>package "winfsp-fuse".  Then later when/if another FUSE implementation
>becomes available, "somebody" could replace the "fuse" package with
>whatever is required to get alternatives support for the variants.

BTW, here is another alternative that I have been mulling around.

I can take the current Cygwin package source, place it under a liberal
license like the BSD and create a separate project out of it. The intent
of the new project would be to support different FUSE solutions for
Windows using a *single* package. Currently it only supports WinFsp, but
it could be modified to support Dokany or other solutions.

There are many benefits to such an approach IMO:

- A single FUSE package and a single cygfuse.dll.
- Works out of the box with all supported Windows user mode file system
solutions.
- No changes in Cygwin’s dependency system or setup.exe required.
- No user confusion.

The current FUSE package is actually very simple. It looks in the registry
to see if/where WinFsp is installed and then loads the WinFsp DLL using
dlopen and the WinFsp-FUSE symbols using dlsym. Presumably the same
technique could work with Dokany or other solution.

https://github.com/billziss-gh/winfsp/tree/master/opt/cygfuse

To clarify I do not volunteer to maintain such a project. Only to
kickstart it by contributing the existing package code. I would hope that
another maintainer emerges, one who is both unaffiliated to the existing
projects (Dokany, WinFsp, etc.) to ensure fairness and one that has
Cygwin’s interests in mind.

Let me know.

Bill


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-26 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-22 11:59 Adrien JUND
2016-07-22 17:55 ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-22 19:56   ` Adrien JUND
2016-07-23  0:23     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-23 10:40       ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-23 16:44         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-23 17:48           ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-23 18:34             ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-25  7:35               ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-25 21:20                 ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-26  6:28                   ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-26  8:45                     ` Herbert Stocker
2016-07-26 12:40                       ` Adrien JUND
2016-07-26 18:13                         ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-26 18:41                           ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-26 17:23                     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-26 18:38                     ` Bill Zissimopoulos [this message]
2016-07-26 19:02                       ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-26 19:10                         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-26 23:22                         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-27  9:03                           ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-27 17:45                             ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-28  9:17                               ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-28 16:36                                 ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-28 17:29                                   ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-28 17:43                                     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-28 19:14                                     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-28 19:21                                       ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-28 19:59                                       ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-28 20:08                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-28 20:04                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-28 21:18                                         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-29  0:05                                           ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-29  0:17                                             ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-29  0:27                                               ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-29  8:19                                                 ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-29  8:51                                                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-29  9:15                                                     ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-29  9:48                                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-08-16 17:32                                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-08-17  8:27                                                           ` Mark Geisert
2016-08-17  9:14                                                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-08-22  9:43                                                               ` Mark Geisert
2016-08-22 11:54                                                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-08-25  8:49                                                                 ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-09-05  9:36                                                                   ` Mark Geisert
2016-09-05 11:20                                                                     ` Adrien JUND
2016-09-05 20:16                                                                       ` Mark Geisert
2016-09-06 21:15                                                                         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-09-07  5:22                                                                         ` Herbert Stocker
2016-09-08  8:13                                                                           ` Mark Geisert
2016-09-06 22:07                                                                       ` Mark Geisert
2016-09-08  8:03                                                                         ` cygfuse (was Re: [ITP] FUSE 2.8) Mark Geisert
2016-09-20 21:12                                                                           ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-09-21  5:33                                                                             ` cygfuse Mark Geisert
2016-09-21  6:01                                                                               ` cygfuse Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-09-21  6:13                                                                             ` cygfuse (was Re: [ITP] FUSE 2.8) Adrien JUND
2016-09-06 21:13                                                                     ` [ITP] FUSE 2.8 Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-09-08 12:01                                                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-09-08 16:58                                                                         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-08-25  8:58                                                                 ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-29 15:35                                                   ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-29 18:35                                                     ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-29  7:50                                     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-29  8:02                                       ` Mark Geisert
2016-07-26 20:07                       ` Adrien JUND
2016-07-26 20:56                         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-07-17  1:03 Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-17 15:43 ` David Stacey
2016-07-17 21:18 ` Marco Atzeri
2016-07-18 19:15   ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-18  8:19 ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-18 19:43   ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-18 19:52     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-19  9:41       ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-19 17:27         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-20  8:52           ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-21 22:12             ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-22  7:59               ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-22 12:30                 ` Adrien JUND
2016-07-22 12:53                   ` Marco Atzeri
2016-07-22 13:41                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-07-22 17:58                     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-22 19:58                       ` Marco Atzeri
2016-07-23  0:31                         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-23  6:02                           ` Marco Atzeri
2016-07-23  6:33                             ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-07-22 17:55                 ` Bill Zissimopoulos

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