From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CAF4385AC2D for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2022 14:29:50 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 6CAF4385AC2D Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com Received: from calimero.vinschen.de ([24.134.7.25]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MrOq7-1pS8RH3uf1-00oVSn for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:29:48 +0200 Received: by calimero.vinschen.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 42858A8086D; Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:29:48 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Test: grep 3.8 - promotion to current stable Message-ID: Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:kLhMIrB93foH7IWy2knjsyq8b38zNnvHNOxVA7KgScr4SrckBqM CZCJw7uNCg2AbXZzrzn85FowUrxXWdcDFa5E2VWIn8DpbtQOLB8EbcdNp+qc1gF0eW5hD19 FtoLRLujQVo9nhcPpnNLO0cGAbQGbAavbpN9weo3SnUVqgp8TWRfz0kA/Nq8kqkPFe8Isp9 1HqlxEWEKqskLio70z/6w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:TWYpJUClDds=:tjgTb+aRgJkNU7yCzwv8D2 9adDhDWyGS5ob/GG2yJE2OX1cqQfTQyqB5+bdwqUYozp5yMyTehfmRVaAJ07Dld0/iBU+7qyH aYhre2pM8d1fIX2dfBCaWO/UpPd03C8nIMF3VrQfjWmHPgb4hRNC5EHZsxi76zAAEIWaETf9a 4a23Q+qpSq4Vg24rH5Xmka6SHJJ8FuoTl0QxCqHKWxKd6ModIiVFbLMwJhO1cRn/JkMwaJMav Rmqu64njbuXfdOQFKHy6YJOYmr39ygi/4yMrjcw/594CoDOGMvklsMhNTTtSiLOZMJGQCt+D5 xS6XHPkEtVpegtnurbuZu7aNy/JzFpV5aUWL0Allhyxl/POuuoExkVNPGM2a3EqZl+op1y/5Z lrjmicWGSB2QGvahVJWqBUuwvaDjJl7sijPf3zwoFj2TyrpJ01Fb8JSsFlam1d2BIoWKhtKro kD7nEHiw0chP4akbrPx7yZFXbI4OeE/ReKLb5RyQR37f7oWm4zv+CeRG973wbk9HERBLCw8pi LEbaUYSEfxIxTKAvEtEe8zVVlnDASUKzCHCbShWKnZ7SpQfjnmo59qzOiCJ6SNFzK/QAYZL4d Q6vq8Lg3eXi9umGNDhLaatHoso6UeCR45IHxXaL1ksJAsjM5nfdKVxE+cpPgFMNu0anvTiYH6 hVUCq/qq8+q3heSst4VoLMePhf9SZGtoZdQI6946vFfBhF5W8mYeNm1RlrNNGncbfCFFj3YK0 RI77pLB0z0N3AslRYS3EfyVticPqlUlTRitDPlqPIfB1iUbKlXUXlKo3tUjvtwONfW+u/hJMy N3u28zRXTiYFHt5u4XhHhRZJs2jLg== X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GOOD_FROM_CORINNA_CYGWIN,KAM_DMARC_NONE,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_FAIL,SPF_HELO_NONE,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Oct 28 08:40, gs-cygwin.com@gluelogic.com wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 12:49:37AM -0600, Brian Inglis wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 18:25:45 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote > > > On Sep 29 12:55, Brian Inglis wrote: > > > > > /usr/share/doc/grep/ChangeLog > > > > > https://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=grep.git;a=log;h=refs/tags/v3.8 > > > > > > The change note below states that egrep and fgrep are deprecated > > > > > obsolescent commands, will be dropped in future, and from this release > > > > > until then, every use will show a stderr warning message, reminding you > > > > > how to change your commands and scripts: > > > > > > $ egrep ... > > > > > egrep: warning: egrep is obsolescent; using grep -E > > > > > ... > > > > > $ fgrep ... > > > > > fgrep: warning: fgrep is obsolescent; using grep -F > > > > > ... > > > > > Please do everyone a favor and remove those warnings. egrep and fgrep > > > are used abundantly in existing scripts and the user often has no choice > > > or no knowledge how to fix this. If this is an upstream change, it's a > > > bad one, breaking backward compatibility. Please fix this at least for > > > our distro. > > > > This was released as test at the start of September, reiterated at the end > > of September on this list, then promoted to current stable and announced > > early October: > > Planning for the future, could the grep package provide egrep and fgrep > in /etc/alternatives? Then a new (optional) package, say "grepfe" could > provide /etc/alternative shell scripts (or binaries) which called > grep -F and grep -E. That would be a feasible workaround. Corinna