From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3E2338518A1 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 12:45:11 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org C3E2338518A1 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com Received: from calimero.vinschen.de ([24.134.7.25]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MryOx-1pK0rT26dx-00nzwZ for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 13:45:10 +0100 Received: by calimero.vinschen.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 61D29A80974; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 13:45:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 13:45:09 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Subject: Re: RE: Cygwin x86 end-of-life Message-ID: Reply-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com References: <3dc57f50-cb80-4893-48f3-1ce976bf6996@SystematicSw.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3dc57f50-cb80-4893-48f3-1ce976bf6996@SystematicSw.ab.ca> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+13JNpo6wrU34DiPhQ+Es0byg9UZBchYZwXQkYPr4+rHYZ0LhXh MmJJ3KmpTy+oQv5ERHySVTcKgAJ0VrHOPzmnT0KeNKhZmxhBzvWstzTTmDyxkFOkgEvEg8N Y5IXbvn3Uu3mc3KSbx8ZzxBjC7ZrU7Fwo5OUyrcr+hvjdYZwzd2MVHb53ji0J40PWjerX3R 9S77zmD2BCgOaNd2hHYmQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:GKbusEKUFLs=:sYQ2ZKJwKMznf8AzoOHeww 7xbi6YJ4/MNPzyKr2V3kB22fkQ65CFqb8nD8PpSfODgspPpY0thPxcNv2Kv41pZQ1Z7N5yHFO lj0znvf8AOhoUKqfZ5AfW3QOfJ6JIpNVdxexjqiaMt/VXpltrjVp0/x03JwemOtTg3ZxLjjYM O4xQrhhQDA9GnPbLd8Vif7fz9AdlLyNkysRZlunX0j2K6bAPb0YeQ6njvHFvtv5X/gpgsMNCh OYdAmgfE3qAogXGU011hAF9nv2UGi9KlOvXIUMp+cytlyTyncnpz73E94SfCLVB73otib7Muz OZRPTL/E946mfEzjco05Ojq6eZgqxBDL+F8hlX6AUVA9rA+YD6nv0phfOEFo1CXRwooSKs0Br 8R12phVdYSzMZSqb1Cg5EEAOJL5VM1b6/cfhsd+EEqgxztutA6Q0xDZNmEC6pCKzZHfEccRMv FSzteF5xEJx/hT5BRgQqMgxpC6e8wxtitY669TYsX30C3yR+3nXsLlc58e84jhhb2zm/MnM6P O5hKjKB70sghnK52oEmb/wC6bvMX7plom6U0QWLasco3xMFtVm6LFo5EQ9yHR8QFhzL7UlvTB pD/Rce/5y3iocHAKTgFkS3WcWSmwq+H5VAh/Q9ju/BEdwVE0vi2bt4J7vDbv1yrIqvJg26Nfo 3yw0wZM1F0kb1ajUsL/3Wel+Tga+Oymqo+6JJsb+ZCCtGdCRngNp+8gAoJPc3kMYyK3ZQF7qy My/lUCotSRopQ1FxB4bRSKLU47mZ9kJ0rzJZJH6RL8AZVbaApo3wrAPfDj4ga/FuJolRPggTb 8T9PF/bbK6VSBaoA9SKzG5MpIBDmA== X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GOOD_FROM_CORINNA_CYGWIN,KAM_DMARC_NONE,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_FAIL,SPF_HELO_NONE,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Nov 18 12:30, Brian Inglis wrote: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 15:51:34 +0000, Jon Turney wrote: > > On 14/11/2022 21:29, Jason Pyeron wrote: > > > Can I throw resources at a solution? If so what? > > > Sure, if that's what you want to do. > > According surveys, 32-bit Windows has a fraction of 1% market share, and > > declining. Our own (limited) metrics are in accord with that, so I > > basically see any time I spend on this as wasted. > > So, the first resource you'll need provide is manpower. > > The decision makes sense with those numbers. > Do we have numbers to say what the situation is with Windows mingw64-i686 crosses? > Should we also be dropping those at the same time, if there is only 1% use > of that platform? > In which case, we should announce that, and add that to the EoL notices. A cygwin -> i686-w64-mingw32 cross is an entirely different beast. It's kind of like a cygwin -> sparc-sun-sunos4 cross, or a cygwin -> riscv-*-* cross. Either of them is a perfectly valid toolchain, hosted on Cygwin, targeting some foreign CPU/machine combination. As long as the cross toolchain has a maintainer, it's ok, isn't it? Corinna