From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24727 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 2008 09:18:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24716 invoked by uid 22791); 24 Jul 2008 09:18:19 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (HELO mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) (81.103.221.48) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:17:56 +0000 Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080724092312.TYAC7070.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:23:12 +0100 Received: from gateway.morrison.mine.nu ([82.21.193.42]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080724092133.YNQQ29365.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@gateway.morrison.mine.nu> for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:21:33 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.morrison.mine.nu ident=www-data) by gateway.morrison.mine.nu with esmtp (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian)) id 1KLwxL-0005MF-7i for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:17:51 +0100 Received: from 84.246.168.11 (SquirrelMail authenticated user john) by mail.morrison.mine.nu with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:17:51 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080724090807.GD5251@calimero.vinschen.de> References: <20080717155516.GC5675@calimero.vinschen.de> <48851EE2.9030202@users.sourceforge.net> <20080722093225.GA15895@calimero.vinschen.de> <48876999.3050208@users.sourceforge.net> <20080723180000.GA5251@calimero.vinschen.de> <394fb80db854e1eefd91bf014c162a24.squirrel@mail.morrison.mine.nu> <20080724090807.GD5251@calimero.vinschen.de> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:18:00 -0000 Subject: Re: New Cygwin 1.7.0-18 in release-2 From: "John Morrison" To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Sender: cygwin-apps-owner@cygwin.com List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Mail-Followup-To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2008-07/txt/msg00117.txt.bz2 On Thu, July 24, 2008 10:08 am, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jul 23 21:44, John Morrison wrote: >> On Wed, July 23, 2008 7:00 pm, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> > I'd be happy if even the most important packages have been rebuilt for >> > 1.7. So far the reactions from the package maintainers were somewhat >> > reticent. >> >> I think that'll probably alter once there's a setup for 1.7. Speaking >> personally I *need* my installation of cygwin and couldn't stand to be >> without it. (I will get 'round to patching the base packages, but I >> was/did hand these over to Igor; is he still around?) > > Igor is still around, yes. I didn't know (or forgot again) you handed > over maintainership of the base packages. Igor? > >> X under 1.7 is a requirement for me. Just wish I had the skills to get >> the latest version working. >> >> >> OTOH I'm not sure what the user reaction would be. I suppose one >> >> compromise would be to require users to "rm -fr /etc/setup" before >> >> upgrading to 1.7. >> >> Once X works, that works for me :) > > Why is X so important for testing and building packages? testing and building no, but I suspect that for most maintainers (at least those with only one or two packages) the package is a 'thank you' back to cygwin for the environment so the stability of the environment is very important. I know that's why I started with the base- packages, 'cause I wanted to improve the 'out of the box' experience. > I mean, > the console window and rxvt exist, right? Personally I'm doing a lot > in my Linux X console, connecting to my Windows machines via rdesktop > and ssh in an xterm. Btw., since 1.5 and 1.7 can co-exist running in > different directories, there should be no problem running 1.7 based > rxvt/xterm in a 1.5 X server. I didn't know that. >> (attempting to find some time!) > > Please with sugar? I only have windows at work now and all my time is 'allocated' to projects... trying! If I don't get it done before the weekend I'll get a virtual machine running. Promise. J.