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From: Jon Turney <jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk>
To: cygwin-apps@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: [setup topic/libsolv] Does "obsoletes:" work?
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 20:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0f6bd0c-f408-6cfb-1ae4-99a4dbc8b416@dronecode.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a4b0964e-6110-412f-9384-1b2fa4d5f9ca@cornell.edu>

On 23/10/2017 18:43, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 10/23/2017 7:38 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>> On 21/10/2017 21:18, Ken Brown wrote:
>>> On 10/20/2017 6:24 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>> Have you ever tested the "obsoletes:" feature of setup/libsolv?  I 
>>>> tried adding an "obsoletes:" line to setup.ini, and it didn't seem 
>>>> to have any effect.
>>
>> It seems I tested it back in May, so it might well have broken since :)
>>
>> Here's a very small test repo I've been using for some tests:
>> http://www.dronecode.org.uk/cygwin/test/x86_64/
>>
>> But yes, your patch looks like it's needed for it to work correctly...
>>
>>> It turns out that it *is* working (after a minor fix, attached), but 
>>> not always as I expect.  Suppose A requires B and C obsoletes B.  
>>> Then the "obsoletes" statement appears to have no effect.  If I 
>>> remove the dependence of A on B, then setup does propose uninstalling 
>>> B and installing C.
>>>
>>> I guess the issue is that libsolv interprets "C obsoletes B" as 
>>> "uninstall B and install C", and it won't uninstall B while something 
>>> requires it.
>>
>> The 'targeted' vs. 'untargeted' distinction is relevant here? Perhaps 
>> we are doing the wrong one?
> 
> Maybe.  I've read and re-read the discussion of this in 
> libsolv-bindings.txt, and I'm still not sure I understand it.

Yeah, the documentation is a bit impenetrable.

> But here's a simpler case where "obsoletes" isn't working as I expect. 
> Using your test repo, in which A requires C and obsoletes B, I start 
> with none of the packages installed.  I choose B for installation 
> (either interactively or on the command line), and B gets installed.  If 
> I now run setup a second time, A and C get installed and B gets 
> uninstalled.
> 
> I expected A and C to be installed on the first run.  I don't think this 
> has anything to do with targeted vs. untargeted, because that 
> distinction is only relevant for updating installed packages.

I guess I had the opposite expectation (if I ask for A to be installed, 
that's what should happen, because if it insists on upgrading it behind 
my back there's no way to do that...)

The actual behaviour you mention fits what's described there pretty well.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-24 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-20 22:25 Ken Brown
2017-10-21 20:19 ` Ken Brown
2017-10-23 11:38   ` Jon Turney
2017-10-23 17:44     ` Ken Brown
2017-10-24 20:09       ` Jon Turney [this message]
2017-10-24 20:25         ` Ken Brown
2017-10-24 20:37           ` Jon Turney
2017-10-24 21:33             ` Ken Brown

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